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    Version 9 � observations.

    Last week we have purchased new Alpha Five V9 - Platinum. I have been working with alpha for around one year � with version 8 till last week, now v9.

    Below my observations about V9:

    1. V9 does not support dual monitor display � V8 was not good with it too. If you define in field rules lookup to be shown as drop-down, it will not work on the second monitor, also alpha likes to lock the drop-down lookups from time to time (I haven�t found pattern on this yet � but it does happen and it forces my users to restart the form).
    2. It is not easy to put button inside the browse (edit display format) � when you set it up in properties the moment you �OK� the changes buttons appear and disappear instantly - the only way to force the button to stay is to define image first and approve, and then switch it to button (this took me some time to figure out � not to mention few nervous breakdowns).
    3. Browses on forms works as good as in version 8 � really poor! (and I always though tables and browses were the base of databases � not in alpha)
    4. I also found that if u have filed with date or time in browse you can change its value using the new feature (after clicking on the small icon next to the field when field has focus) even when the field is READ-ONLY!
    And last �tip� � don�t try to modify your application in V8 after installing v9 � don�t even open it in the v8 developer version because all opened form will become damaged - v8 or v9 will not be able to open it again.

    Although V9 introduces a lot of new features (that I don�t really use anyway) and it still has some support and patches (hopefully for some time before they introduce v10 and forget about V9 again) I must say that I was a little disappointed when I installed V9.

    Don�t get me wrong � I am not complaining (only) about alpha � it puts bread on my table now and I am stuck with it some more time � but it will have no sense if I write here just how wonderful alpha is, because you know that already!

    The reason I have posted this is to share my opinions and hopefully find some help from you Alpha Lovers! � or at least convince myself that is not only my problem (not my poor development only but there is something wrong out there.....)

    So if you use alpha and you have the same issues please write about it here � maybe it will convince somebody from Alpha team to do something about it.

    If you don�t have that issues please let me also know- then I will know that is something wrong on my side.

    Regards,
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    Re: Version 9 � observations.

    Have you reported the problems you are having to the Alpha support team?

    On the Help tab in Alpha Five, select "Send a bug report".

    I have reported a number of problems recently some have had replies and some haven't, but generally the problems are getting solved. Although, I have a problem at the moment with screen corruption see my post:

    http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=75913

    This seems to have started since installing the latest patch 1772_3208?

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      #3
      Re: Version 9 � observations.

      I am interested to hear a little more on your experience with browses ..... I thought that V9 fixed all prior problems with browses and this was something I was kinda counting on when upgrading to V9.

      Glenn

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        #4
        Re: Version 9 � observations.

        Originally posted by JarekZ View Post
        I also found that if u have filed with date or time in browse you can change its value using the new feature (after clicking on the small icon next to the field when field has focus) even when the field is READ-ONLY!
        I was able to replicate this in AlphaSports and sent in a bug report weeks ago. The reply I received was that the next patch would have a command that you could insert in the autoexec to disable the new feature. I guess it is easier to disable it than to just make it work properly.:(

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          Re: Version 9 � observations.

          Originally posted by RCarvalho View Post
          I was able to replicate this in AlphaSports and sent in a bug report weeks ago. The reply I received was that the next patch would have a command that you could insert in the autoexec to disable the new feature. I guess it is easier to disable it than to just make it work properly.:(
          Your guess is probably correct. However, my guess is it will take a bit of time to repair and the folks at Alpha wanted to issue a temporary work around so we wouldn't be left in a lurch.

          kenn
          TYVM :) kenn

          Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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            #6
            Re: Version 9 � observations.

            Originally posted by forskare View Post
            Your guess is probably correct. However, my guess is it will take a bit of time to repair and the folks at Alpha wanted to issue a temporary work around so we wouldn't be left in a lurch.
            kenn
            I honestly hope you are right, but in the latest release notes for 1772-3208 it states:

            "Some users have requested that this automatic display of the icon be suppressed. There is now a new setting which can be made using Xbasic to turn off the automatic display of this icon. The command is:
            a5.system_mode_set("Show_Calender_Icon_For_Type-In_Fields", "No")

            The default value for this setting is Yes."


            I have a question. If something does not work why not make the default "no" until it is fixed?

            Why is it that users/developers have modify their databases to circumvent this bug? I would just like to apply the patch and be done with it.


            Sorry if I am letting off a little steam but I persuaded our company to upgrade to V9 a month ago. After deploying it for a week, I had to go back to v8 because of "anomalies". Yes, I have submitted "bug reports" and some bugs have been addressed by this latest patch but I am looking like a chump.

            Please do not get me wrong. I really love this product and I do not think I could find a more "cost-effective" alternative for our company even if I wanted to....but man, it's painful sometimes!

            Rui

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              Re: Version 9 � observations.

              Hi Rui,

              It's no fum promoting A5, something goes wrong and you end up an embarrassed chump. Send this to: [email protected]

              Originally posted by RCarvalho View Post
              I have a question. If something does not work why not make the default "no" until it is fixed?

              Why is it that users/developers have modify their databases to circumvent this bug? I would just like to apply the patch and be done with it.

              Sorry if I am letting off a little steam but I persuaded our company to upgrade to V9 a month ago. After deploying it for a week, I had to go back to v8 because of "anomalies". Yes, I have submitted "bug reports" and some bugs have been addressed by this latest patch but I am looking like a chump.

              Please do not get me wrong. I really love this product and I do not think I could find a more "cost-effective" alternative for our company even if I wanted to....but man, it's painful sometimes!
              kenn
              TYVM :) kenn

              Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                Re: Version 9 � observations.

                Thanks for comments....

                What about dual monitor display and why list boxes are not working on secondary monitor? - because of that we might need to go back to V8!!!

                V8 was showing the drop down menu but on the first monitor - V9 is doing nothing at all or is freezing! - that is real pain in the butt for my clients cos they don't know why they can not use pull down menu when the widow is on second monitor.

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