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    #1

    Record Count Error

    Funny thing. I create 5 records. Then I delete them. But the record count shows "6" records as the number count, with there being NO records in the database. I show all records, then delete all records and still the same. How do I get it to show "1" record? rather than the old number.
    Kevin G. Timberlake
    Marvel Illusions
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    Re: Record Count Error

    Kevin

    When you delete a record it is only marked as deleted - it is still there .

    The deleted records are only removed from the table when you pack the table or do a database compact. That will set the correct record count

    Tom Baker

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      #3
      Re: Record Count Error

      Thanks Tom, but now that I did a pack, I cannot create new records. I mean, it made a new record, but will not allow me to insert data.
      Kevin G. Timberlake
      Marvel Illusions

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        #4
        Re: Record Count Error

        My mistake, it will not allow me to create more than "1" record.
        Kevin G. Timberlake
        Marvel Illusions

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          #5
          Re: Record Count Error

          Kevin

          It this a test file or something you are working on?

          If it just a test file - seems something is corrupted.

          If you are working from a form or embedded browse, do you have any
          restrictions on entering or changing records.

          Packing the table, in itself, will not corrupt your data unless the data
          was corrupted before the pack -

          edit: Do you have an index defined - update the index and see what happens (only if there is one).





          Tom
          Last edited by Tbaker; 12-24-2008, 03:20 PM. Reason: edit just saw your last post

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            #6
            Re: Record Count Error

            It is a in development, but testing the data storing and deletion. I do not have any restrictions yet, and upon updating indexes, nothing changed.
            Kevin G. Timberlake
            Marvel Illusions

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              #7
              Re: Record Count Error

              Kevin

              Can you post a sample with the offending table?

              Tom

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                #8
                Re: Record Count Error

                Here it is. Maybe you can see what is wrong. I am working in AcqDis in the forms. The table is acquisitions. To get to it, the hot spot is in the upper left corner just below the banner.
                Last edited by Kevin G. Timberlake; 12-24-2008, 04:00 PM. Reason: smaller file
                Kevin G. Timberlake
                Marvel Illusions

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                  #9
                  Re: Record Count Error

                  remove the action script "on enter" (show all records)

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                    #10
                    Re: Record Count Error

                    Kevin

                    Working with the default browse and default form I can't find anything wrong - except for the fact that when you push the arrow for the a lookup on the serial number you get a lot of blank spaces in the lookup drop down - but that is because serial numbers were not entered in the product table.

                    That would not stop you from entering records.

                    I check the AcqDis form and could find nothng there to restrict your entry.

                    I can enter records into the table.

                    edit. I didn't pick up on that since I was not using the form to enter records - when I checked the form I did not check the forms events only the form's properties. Good work John
                    Tom Baker
                    Last edited by Tbaker; 12-24-2008, 04:27 PM. Reason: Just saw John' post

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                      #11
                      Re: Record Count Error

                      Thanks guys, the "show all records" was the issue I guess. I removed it and all is good....so far. So, is it a good idea to have a button for the end user to "pack" the database once a month?
                      Kevin G. Timberlake
                      Marvel Illusions

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                        #12
                        Re: Record Count Error

                        Kevin

                        So, is it a good idea to have a button for the end user to "pack" the database once a month?
                        Unless there are a lot of deletions during the month then it should not be necessary once a month but it should be done sometime. I usually put a button on the form that can be viewed by the administrator only, that will pack the tables.

                        Remember, when you pack a table, all the records that have been deleted (marked for deletion by Alpha) are removed from the table. You can not get them back.

                        Tom

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                          #13
                          Re: Record Count Error

                          Yepper. Thanks
                          Kevin G. Timberlake
                          Marvel Illusions

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                            #14
                            Re: Record Count Error

                            Although just a nuisance, I think the record count including deleted records is a bug - I don't think they are supposed to show up in a count

                            I ran into it too, when I was tryinf to move a program from 8 to 9, but I moved it back as I didn't have time to deal with issues that came up

                            report it as an error
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                              Re: Record Count Error

                              Martin

                              I think what Kevin was referring to is the record selector in the toolbar not a physical count of the records.

                              As you know when Alpha deletes a record it is only marked for deletion until you pack the table.

                              If you have 10 records in a table and delete them, then prior to you packing the table, if you open a form or a browse on that table, the first record will be 11 not 1 since they are still in the table but marked for deletion. That number shows up in the record selector in the toolbar. After packing the table, when you open the form (which will be in enter mode since there are no records in the table) the record selector will be 1 for the new record to be entered.

                              If you do a dbcount() on that table prior to packing it will show zero records.

                              However, if you have run into something different with the count and it can be reproduced in Version 9 (the only version that will be updated) then by all means a bug report should be sent.

                              Tom

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