Alpha Software Mobile Development Tools:   Alpha Anywhere    |   Alpha TransForm subscribe to our YouTube Channel  Follow Us on LinkedIn  Follow Us on Twitter  Follow Us on Facebook

Announcement

Collapse

The Alpha Software Forum Participation Guidelines

The Alpha Software Forum is a free forum created for Alpha Software Developer Community to ask for help, exchange ideas, and share solutions. Alpha Software strives to create an environment where all members of the community can feel safe to participate. In order to ensure the Alpha Software Forum is a place where all feel welcome, forum participants are expected to behave as follows:
  • Be professional in your conduct
  • Be kind to others
  • Be constructive when giving feedback
  • Be open to new ideas and suggestions
  • Stay on topic


Be sure all comments and threads you post are respectful. Posts that contain any of the following content will be considered a violation of your agreement as a member of the Alpha Software Forum Community and will be moderated:
  • Spam.
  • Vulgar language.
  • Quotes from private conversations without permission, including pricing and other sales related discussions.
  • Personal attacks, insults, or subtle put-downs.
  • Harassment, bullying, threatening, mocking, shaming, or deriding anyone.
  • Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, or otherwise discriminatory jokes and language.
  • Sexually explicit or violent material, links, or language.
  • Pirated, hacked, or copyright-infringing material.
  • Encouraging of others to engage in the above behaviors.


If a thread or post is found to contain any of the content outlined above, a moderator may choose to take one of the following actions:
  • Remove the Post or Thread - the content is removed from the forum.
  • Place the User in Moderation - all posts and new threads must be approved by a moderator before they are posted.
  • Temporarily Ban the User - user is banned from forum for a period of time.
  • Permanently Ban the User - user is permanently banned from the forum.


Moderators may also rename posts and threads if they are too generic or do not property reflect the content.

Moderators may move threads if they have been posted in the incorrect forum.

Threads/Posts questioning specific moderator decisions or actions (such as "why was a user banned?") are not allowed and will be removed.

The owners of Alpha Software Corporation (Forum Owner) reserve the right to remove, edit, move, or close any thread for any reason; or ban any forum member without notice, reason, or explanation.

Community members are encouraged to click the "Report Post" icon in the lower left of a given post if they feel the post is in violation of the rules. This will alert the Moderators to take a look.

Alpha Software Corporation may amend the guidelines from time to time and may also vary the procedures it sets out where appropriate in a particular case. Your agreement to comply with the guidelines will be deemed agreement to any changes to it.



Bonus TIPS for Successful Posting

Try a Search First
It is highly recommended that a Search be done on your topic before posting, as many questions have been answered in prior posts. As with any search engine, the shorter the search term, the more "hits" will be returned, but the more specific the search term is, the greater the relevance of those "hits". Searching for "table" might well return every message on the board while "tablesum" would greatly restrict the number of messages returned.

When you do post
First, make sure you are posting your question in the correct forum. For example, if you post an issue regarding Desktop applications on the Mobile & Browser Applications board , not only will your question not be seen by the appropriate audience, it may also be removed or relocated.

The more detail you provide about your problem or question, the more likely someone is to understand your request and be able to help. A sample database with a minimum of records (and its support files, zipped together) will make it much easier to diagnose issues with your application. Screen shots of error messages are especially helpful.

When explaining how to reproduce your problem, please be as detailed as possible. Describe every step, click-by-click and keypress-by-keypress. Otherwise when others try to duplicate your problem, they may do something slightly different and end up with different results.

A note about attachments
You may only attach one file to each message. Attachment file size is limited to 2MB. If you need to include several files, you may do so by zipping them into a single archive.

If you forgot to attach your files to your post, please do NOT create a new thread. Instead, reply to your original message and attach the file there.

When attaching screen shots, it is best to attach an image file (.BMP, .JPG, .GIF, .PNG, etc.) or a zip file of several images, as opposed to a Word document containing the screen shots. Because Word documents are prone to viruses, many message board users will not open your Word file, therefore limiting their ability to help you.

Similarly, if you are uploading a zipped archive, you should simply create a .ZIP file and not a self-extracting .EXE as many users will not run your EXE file.
See more
See less

Installation in Windows Vista 64...

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Installation in Windows Vista 64...

    Hello all...

    I've used Alpha since the DOS days (so very long ago it seems) and just now getting back into it.

    I'm trying to install the demo of the latest build (before I purchase) in a Windows Vista 64-bit environment.

    All runs well until just before the end (99-percent-ish) a dialog box makes a brief appearance before disappearing and the installation hangs. The filename it appears to be stuck on is D:\Program Files (x86)\a5v9\DhtmlEd.msi.

    I have full administrative rights and have tried running as Administrator as well.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks,
    Chris
    Last edited by chris0626; 01-19-2009, 01:24 PM.

    #2
    Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

    I'm not sure, but I think the .msi file is the Windows installation file for the program. Have you tried going to users/user access control in the control panel and turning it off? Then retry the install. I installed V8 on 64bit Vista with no problems. Obviously can't speak for V9.

    Comment


      #3
      Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

      UAC is turned off already... interesting note: using Sun's VirtualBox with Windows7 64-bit installed allowed the installation to complete just fine.

      Comment


        #4
        Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

        I've got the same file dated 1/24/07. Appears to be the HTML editor.

        Try turning the UAC on. It's one of those things in Vista that's flakey. I have one program that suddenly quit running after about 8 months. Turning the UAC off fixed the problem but now I find it doesn't matter whether it's on or off. Go figure.

        Too bad you can't see the error message.

        Comment


          #5
          Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

          recently ran into this - client returned and got XP 32 - so fixed the issue - but I notice that vendors are starting to offer ONLY 64 bit Vista. Noticed it on an HP site where they had a sale - all were 64 bit. I'm worried, frankly, that this could be the end of Alpha desktop. As I recall, Cian said it would be practicably impossible to convert. Some 6 million lines of code in the base program to weed through.
          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
          972 524 8714
          [email protected]

          ____________________
          "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

          Comment


            #6
            Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

            I have Vista Ultimate, 64 bit OS (bought it about 2 months ago) on a dell computer. It came with SP1 at that time. Installed Alpha v9 platinum shortly thereafter without a hitch and not having any problems using the software.
            Also, about a week ago installed the SP2 service pack, still no problems. Can't say that I have gone through every nuance of v9 (far from it as I am just above novice level) but also imported Sarah Hussey Bush's demo database that came with "Alpha5 made Easy" from Libery Manuals and have played around with it a little and have had no problems.

            Comment


              #7
              Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

              Likewise, I installed v9 on Vista 64 running on an AMD processor with 4G. Have since upgraded to Windows 7 RC. I have run a number of the tutorials without issue.

              The program installed in 'program files(x86)'

              I do keep my system fully patched.

              Comment


                #8
                Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                thanks - sounds like good news - the client also had an Intel 64 bit processor - are your machines using an Intel 64 bit?
                Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                972 524 8714
                [email protected]

                ____________________
                "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

                Comment


                  #9
                  Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                  mine is intel; specifically intel core i7 cpu 920 @2.67 GHz w/ 6 Gb of RAM

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                    I've been using Intel 64 bit Vista for 2 years with Alpha and no Windows related problems with Alpha. The problem of going through code you're talking about is if Alpha Software wants to make the program a 64 bit program. Very little software is 64 bit. Mostly games.

                    The reason everyone is only offering 64 bit Windows is because the 32 bit Windows limits you to using less than 4Gb ram. You have to go to 64 bit to use more than that. Microsoft kept that very quiet, as did the computer vendors. I accidently discovered it in a magazine just before I bought my new computer.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                      32 bit Windows limits you to using less than 4Gb ram
                      Just to clarify a little---it is the 32 bit that is the limiting factor here, not Windows itself that is limiting it.....and in reality only a bit above 3 Gb can actually be used as memory (and many times much less).

                      I still witness people paying more for a laptop with the only difference being one has 3gb and the other 4 gb of memory on a 32 bit system--what a waste of $ but to try to explain it to them most likely would be a waste of time!! I mean, who would believe that more of something has the same value as something less in terms of usefullness!? Reminds me of hard drives where a slower drive of 7200 rpm can actually be faster (in terms of "work") than a SCSI of 15,000 rpm.
                      Mike
                      __________________________________________
                      It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                      It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                      Henry David Thoreau
                      __________________________________________



                      Comment


                        #12
                        Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                        The actual amount of memory accessible is basically the physical ram minus graphics ram and virtual memory. In that respect, 4 Gb will usually get you more accessible memory than 3 Gb so the money spent for 4 Gb, which is not that great, is probably worth it. But, we could go on and on about it with little return. Thanks for clarifying the issue.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                          I suspect, then, the reason I couldn't get Version 5 software to run on the client's 64 bit Vista was that I didn't install it, per se, I just copied the runtime and software over to it. On XP, that's all you have to do. Apparently, from a previous post, you need to install it and the 64 bit version installs it as 'x86' 32 bit software.

                          Thanks for the info - I'm running a zeon duo with 4gig ram, but on XPPro. I am planning on moving to Version 7 after it comes out and maybe after the first service pack.

                          PS: about 15,000 SSCI's - in the last maybe 10 years I have had only 1 SCSSI fail - it was about 8 years old. They just keep on going and going. And my experience with them, especially on servers, is that they are the fastest thing available.
                          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                          972 524 8714
                          [email protected]

                          ____________________
                          "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                            In Vista, I think you could install the program by just running the setup.exe file after you transferred all the files to the users PC. Don't you have to do the same thing in XP? I can't imagine it automatically detecting and installing a program.

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Re: Installation in Windows Vista 64...

                              Version 5 was self installing (the runtime at least) and you didn't have to use the exe.
                              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                              972 524 8714
                              [email protected]

                              ____________________
                              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X