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Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

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  • Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

    I have a simple database with 3 tables and 1 set. The set has one one-to-many links and 5 one-to-one links. When I try to create a Browse on this set, even if I only pick 2 fields, when I hit "Finish" a blank browse screen displays and Alpha freezes and I have to close the program.

    I am able to create browses from my 3 tables.

    Interestingly, I am able to create an imbedded browse of that set in a form.

    I'm able to create browses on sets in my other databases.

    I'm running Alpha on Windows XP.

    Can someone help!??!

  • #2
    Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

    Six links between three tables? Doesn't sound simple to me.

    I would start with the plainest set I could devise, try that, then start adding complexity one link at a time, texting each step.
    There can be only one.

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    • #3
      Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

      Maybe I need database construction advise: The database lists 6 steps to be followed, and each step needs a sign-off by an employee. So I link to my employee table 6 times. Is there a better way to handle this?

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      • #4
        Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

        Rather simplistic but this might work. View the main form, choose a step(s), enter employee id's in the browse.

        Exit form, view the sec form, choose an employee, view what steps they have completed.
        There can be only one.

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        • #5
          Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

          Thank you Stan for your sample database! I studied it and it makes a lot of sense. Regrettably I over-simplified my description of my database; and the 6 steps do not have common fields so I can't see how to make a 'steps' database. I know my db structure is not ideal, but I don't understand why I can create an imbedded browse in a form, but not a stand-alone browse? Do you mind taking a look at my DB to see why I can't make a browse of the set main-ncr_rma? (I adopted ths DB from a co-worker who was terminated and neither of us are DB people - just corporate finance types - so it's sort of a mess.... but I love Alpha b/c I can create a working DB knowing so little!)

          Thanks, Elle

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          • #6
            Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

            Ellen

            I can modify your set to eliminate the multiple links to the employees and a browse will be created.

            If I link to the employees twice, a browse is created. If I link for a third time, then the browse can't be created.

            Stan has suggested a normalized approach rather than your de-normalized approach. The field name issues can be resolved by having a field describing the step.

            I can see your approach has merit also and should work.

            I'll submit my results to the bug patrol and see what they say...
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

            Occam's Razor - KISS
            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
            Albert Einstein

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            • #7
              Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

              Originally posted by Ellenu View Post
              but I love Alpha b/c I can create a working DB knowing so little!)
              Amen to that, it works that way for me as well.

              It will be Monday before I will have a chance to examine your sample. Hopefully Al will have some help to offer when he gets an answer.
              There can be only one.

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              • #8
                Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

                Thank you Stan and Al!!! I really appreciate your help. Ellen

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                • #9
                  Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

                  Ellen

                  I got word from the bug patrol that a fix will be in the next patch...
                  Al Buchholz
                  Bookwood Systems, LTD
                  Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                  Occam's Razor - KISS
                  Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                  Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                  When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                  "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                  Albert Einstein

                  http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                  • #10
                    Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

                    Good News! Do you know the timing of the next patch?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

                      Originally posted by Ellenu View Post
                      Good News! Do you know the timing of the next patch?
                      Sorry, I have not clue.

                      If you look at the dates of each patch release in release notes, you'll see that there is not a schedule for patches. Other than being eclectic.

                      Patience is such a great virtue. I wish I had more..
                      Al Buchholz
                      Bookwood Systems, LTD
                      Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                      Occam's Razor - KISS
                      Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                      Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                      When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                      "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                      Albert Einstein

                      http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                      • #12
                        Re: Alpha freezes when I try to create a browse on one of my sets

                        I'm good to go here! Awaiting the next patch, and in the meantime I am able to create my browse as an imbedded browse in a form.

                        However, I did spent a lot of time this weekend trying to turn my DB into a more 'normalized' format as Stan suggested. The data input I can see working, but getting a printable page showing all info is giving me major trouble. I don't want the 6 steps to show as an imbedded browse. Is there a way around that? I could create 6 forms each filtering for a single step, but can't get those 6 forms to show up properly as sub-forms on a single form.

                        Stan, you don't need to now, but if you have time to look at my 2 DB approaches, I'd be very grateful.

                        I've fixed up my original approach (CAR database) and am including my attempt at taking your suggestions w/ a separate table for each step.(CAR database steps in tables).

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