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    #31
    Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

    As I said Andrea--
    Instead when it is present it is scattered amongst everything else
    . Notice that your screenshot lists the pertinent information in the "Learning Xbasic" area....Not in the "Getting Started with Alpha Five" where a complete newbie would travel.

    Personally, I am Now content with how most of the documentation is.....but I sure was not when I first started. I imagine weeks (or months) would have been taken off the learning curve had better documentation been present.

    (Think we are getting a bit off topic now BTW)
    Mike
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      #32
      Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

      Originally posted by MikeC View Post
      As I said Andrea--. Notice that your screenshot lists the pertinent information in the "Learning Xbasic" area....Not in the "Getting Started with Alpha Five" where a complete newbie would travel.

      Personally, I am Now content with how most of the documentation is.....but I sure was not when I first started.
      Thanks for confirming this, the tree menu and search options definitely seem to have improved things a lot!

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        #33
        Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

        Looks like I have the problem as well.

        Started about two weeks ago when I found that my backup time was extended from less than 2 minutes to 24 minutes and the backup aborts. I use a DVD for backup.

        After looking at the file size and seeing the 1.7 gb file and reading the thread it appears that the easiest and perhaps only thing to do is to copy over a .FTP backed up file (1.2mb). Backup turns out to be two weeks old and after copying it over, there is missing RTF info that goes back much further than two weeks. Tried a different backup file with the same results.

        I have figured out which record is creating the problem but I am unable to get to see it or can I figure out how to delete it and who knows if this will reduce the .FPT file size.

        Sorting the table with the ballooned .FPT results in a stall of A5 requiring a Control Alt Delete as does trying to bring this record up. Reports will also stall out if the record is in the report.

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          #34
          Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

          Well it happened again. The .ftp file ballonned to 1.7 gb

          Some of the RTMemo field info disappeared from a dozen records again.

          I revised the field to a character field and then back again to a RTMemo field and the file size has dropped down to 1.6 kb.

          Don't know what I have lost but why is the .fpt exploding in size?

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            #35
            Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

            Originally posted by Larry Ternowski View Post
            Well it happened again. The .ftp file ballonned to 1.7 gb

            Some of the RTMemo field info disappeared from a dozen records again.

            I revised the field to a character field and then back again to a RTMemo field and the file size has dropped down to 1.6 kb.

            Don't know what I have lost but why is the .fpt exploding in size?

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              #36
              Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

              Originally posted by Larry Ternowski View Post
              I revised the field to a character field and then back again to a RTMemo field and the file size has dropped down to 1.6 kb.
              Hope all your memo records were less <= 255 characters, since that is the max for a character field. And hope you changed the size of the memo from 10 characters to the 255 before doing your conversion.
              Peter
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                #37
                Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

                Yes, I did change from 10 to 255 characters.

                I may have lost some info but most of my RTMemos are genrally short.
                Not sure why I am using the RTMemo and not just the Memo as I do not seem to use any of the RT features.

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                  #38
                  Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

                  Originally posted by Larry Ternowski View Post
                  Not sure why I am using the RTMemo and not just the Memo as I do not seem to use any of the RT features.
                  In my past life experience, I generally have found regular memo fields to be more reliable than RTF memos - FWIW.
                  Peter
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                    #39
                    Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

                    Originally posted by NoeticCC View Post
                    I know the docu is not structured perfectly - and you may well be talking of how the help was structured years ago - but if you can't manage to find the very very basic language tutorials then I really don't know what else to suggest.
                    I am sorry. You will have to forgive me but this thread is about bloated .FPT files and the now revealed (to many new users) limitation of memo fields in the DBF file. At what point did this become "very very basic language tutorials". Please show me the very very basic language tutorials that you imply covers this very very simple issue.

                    I am going to build a small plane. I am going to use a carbureted engine in the plane (I did not build the engine) that is well know by engine builders to stall when inverted. I am not going to mention in any of the planes documentation that the plane's engine will stall if the plane is inverted. The logic being that I did not build the engine, I just used it in the plane and those stupid pilots should know already know about the limits of this type of engine. Sounds silly doesn�t it?

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                      #40
                      Re: Bloated .FPT file is not getting backed up anymore

                      Originally posted by Larry Ternowski View Post
                      Yes, I did change from 10 to 255 characters.

                      I may have lost some info but most of my RTMemos are genrally short.
                      Not sure why I am using the RTMemo and not just the Memo as I do not seem to use any of the RT features.
                      Larry,

                      I have not found either memo field to be reliable in V9. In V8 the memo field did very good but for some reason V9 is different for yet to be explained reasons. I still have untouched V8 applications running on my V9 WAS that have memo fields still cranking with no problems. All apps that I touched with V9 and had memo fields caught the bloat bug. Luck of the draw I guess or my favorit is that my computer and other software must be interfering with Alpha5 and impacting just these little specific areas in just V9.

                      My best work around in V9 has been to accept memo information in multiple text fields and avoid memo fields altogether. When you think about it there are really many ways to work with multiple text fields that will make them look just like memos in grids and dialogs and reports. Best of all, no more computer environment roughing up Alpha5 causing bloating and cramping. I was beginning to think it was just a monthly thing. :-)

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