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Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

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  • Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

    Good day?

    I am workint to make a small parts database for my organization. I understand how to build the database and forms, but I don't know if I should build it as a locaroot web app or just a A5 database for desktop.

    If I install the application on our server, how do multiple users log on to use the database from our LAN? I am confused about runtime licenses.

    Perhaps I should just make this a web application and have users use the data from the pc browser??

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    Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

    If you build based on the local root, one computer will need to run the application server all the time. This must be a windows machine. Then all your clients would log on via a web browser to do there work. Unless you are establishing this to be for external access, then they will simply put in the applications server IP. There is some good info on this on main Alpha5 Support in documents.
    See
    http://www.alpha5.com/documentation/afas_setup/

    If this is not external, then you need to to argue between local db versus web. In both cases you need to create the tables as you would create a DB.

    I personally would build a DB with forms first as you get the workflow thrashed out much easier. Then use this as the template for the web. The web can use all the same tables as well, so their is no duplication of this aspect

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    • #3
      Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

      OK, thanks,...so I have a 1 user Platinum license. If three more machines need access to the database what method/tool do I use to allow multi user access?

      Since I only have a 1 user license it sounds like I need to shell out $99 per extra co-user since the application needs to be open on the desktop at all times for each machine. Right?

      If not, what am I missing?

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      • #4
        Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

        Did you buy the latest sale which included unlimited runtime. If you did than all you need to do is install the DB with runtime on the other machines. Once installed, point the shortcuts to the server version so that all are using the same one.

        You only need the one platnum lic for dev work

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        • #5
          Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

          That's a good question which makes me nervous! I bought:
          1Alpha Five Version 9 Platinum Edition - 1 User

          1Alpha Five V9 Application Server Platinum Edition

          1Alpha Five v9 Total Web AppsNot Required
          1Alpha Five E-Commerce Application

          Should I ask for a refund and replace? Which one of these will allow me to make an .exe file for the other machines?

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          • #6
            Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

            Looks like you got everything - but the unlimited. The recent offer was for them all at about $300US

            I would talk directly with Alpha on that

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            • #7
              Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

              Will do. Now the other question....I used A4 years ago and it contined a method to create an exe for distribution.

              I've been looking at the help file and forum but remain perplexed as to what you use to install a client runtiime on each of the pcs AND where you get the applicaiton..

              Is it just some subset of the developers version??

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              • #8
                Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                Tools ->Utilities ->create installer. This wizard walk you through the steps for distribution.
                If you have runtime you will have access to this. All you need is the runtime license number for distribution

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                • #9
                  Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                  Cool. VERY much appreciated, have a good day.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                    Hi Ubuntu,

                    Since you have "1Alpha Five V9 Application Server Platinum Edition", why not make use of it? That way, you are set to go.
                    Regards
                    Keith Hubert
                    Alpha Guild Member
                    London.
                    KHDB Management Systems
                    Skype = keith.hubert


                    For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                      After some more research I think I may go ahead with the web app. But I still want the unlimited runtime too.

                      My lingering question with the web app is if I can easily customize the look of the html pages [color and logo] and also print labels instead of reports.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                        Originally posted by ubuntuthinking View Post
                        Which one of these will allow me to make an .exe file for the other machines?
                        Alpha does NOT compile exes. The RT is identical to the full version - except you cannot create or modify applications with it.

                        Originally posted by ubuntuthinking View Post
                        After some more research I think I may go ahead with the web app. But I still want the unlimited runtime too.
                        The web app and the desktop versions are different animals. However, as stated above, you can share your tables and reports (and labels) between the two. Forms and GUI cannot be shared.*

                        My lingering question with the web app is if I can easily customize the look of the html pages [color and logo] and also print labels instead of reports.
                        Yes. Of course, "easily" is in the eye of the developer. But it's no big deal to change colors or fonts, etc.

                        One other note. Version 10 is the mother of all web application development packages IMHO. It will be released soon. Not to mention that v10 will have a modeless property editor for forms on the desktop side, not to mention that you can create web grids (*except for this) and run them on the desktop in v10. No, I'm not on Alpha's payroll, but I call a spade a spade.
                        Peter
                        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                        [email protected]
                        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                        • #13
                          Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                          Peter,

                          I appreciate your always honest opinion(s) and like your enthusiastic endorsement of V10.

                          I haven't gotten the V10 beta. Have you had any issues running apps under V10 that were developed in V8 or V9?

                          ba

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                          • #14
                            Re: Suggestions for a NewB - Advice Please!

                            Originally posted by Bob Arbuthnot View Post
                            Have you had any issues running apps under V10 that were developed in V8 or V9?
                            Hi Bob,

                            Sorry. Haven't tried to run any v8/v9 apps in v10. Am (and will be) creating new web app(s) in v10 as part of beta testing. As far as I know, desktop features have not yet been introduced into the beta, although any day now...
                            Peter
                            AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                            [email protected]
                            https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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