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    V10 Desktop features

    I know many of you have said that you don't plan to upgrade to V10 because the concentration has been on the Web features. That said, I really think that you should TRY it before you make that decision. I have been working with the full V10 Beta this am and , I am blown away by the stuff that has been added to the desktop. The automatic backup feature when designing forms and reports, as well as the new properties dock (with dynamic control of just about everything) are features that I would think would be worth the price of an upgrade alone. When it is available for a trial download, download it, you won't be disappointed. Alpha 5 has come a loooong way....
    Bill Griffin
    Parkell, Inc
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    Re: V10 Desktop features

    Hi Bill,

    Which build are you using. I downloaded the latest builds (I think)(2431 3346) and don't see any of those features yet. Is there anything specific you had to do to activate them.
    Tim Kiebert
    Eagle Creek Citrus
    A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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      #3
      Re: V10 Desktop features

      Tim,

      I had some issues with Windows 7 and was asked to check out the full install Beta. I beleive they are very close to releasing it to all..
      Bill Griffin
      Parkell, Inc

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        Re: V10 Desktop features

        Thanks Bill, looking forward to it.

        Come to think of it my Windows is playing up as well. I wonder if I ........ ;)
        Tim Kiebert
        Eagle Creek Citrus
        A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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          Re: V10 Desktop features

          Originally posted by Bill Griffin View Post
          Tim,

          I had some issues with Windows 7 and was asked to check out the full install Beta. I beleive they are very close to releasing it to all..
          I'm running Windows 7. What issues are you having? I've worked through a number of the tutorials and samples. I had one sample that the screen was an odd size. Not sure what I did. It only took a little time to redo the entire project and it worked fine the second time.

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            Re: V10 Desktop features

            Originally posted by GregoryCW View Post
            I'm running Windows 7. What issues are you having? I've worked through a number of the tutorials and samples. I had one sample that the screen was an odd size. Not sure what I did. It only took a little time to redo the entire project and it worked fine the second time.
            The problem has to do with having an activex control on a report and converting the report to a pdf/text file/excel file etc. BSOD occurs when doing this, only on Win 7 32&64 bit version.
            Bill Griffin
            Parkell, Inc

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              Re: V10 Desktop features

              I personally will look for one feature and one feature only to decide if I'm going to upgrade: The Browse.

              If the browse looks exactly the same, without the ability to do grouping as people have been clamoring for, then I absolutely will not upgrade under protest.

              Having a calendar feature and change to that dreadful SimpleChart would help too.

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                Re: V10 Desktop features

                JP,
                without the ability to do grouping
                Something like the attached screenshots where you can add groups, sub-totals, totals, etc.?

                The left field is normally hidden but what is in green is user added--all others are actual table fields or calculated fields.

                You can also have Detail or "roll up" into a Summary. I cannot share the code but all could be done since v8. Not something that can be done "out of box" in Alpha, but definitely not an advanced method either really. The gist of it is to add grouping fields to sort by is all.



                dreadful SimpleChart
                I am curious as to what is needed in addition to what SimpleChartLite offers? 3D maybe? or fancier graphs? Or is the "dreadful" related to the difficulty in utilizing it??
                Mike
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                It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                Henry David Thoreau
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                  Re: V10 Desktop features

                  Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                  JP,

                  Not something that can be done "out of box" in Alpha, but definitely not an advanced method either really. The gist of it is to add grouping fields to sort by is all.
                  You make exactly my point. Like a lot of things Alpha, it can be done but it takes a ton of work.

                  Can you be a little more specific on how to do this?

                  I am curious as to what is needed in addition to what SimpleChartLite offers? 3D maybe? or fancier graphs? Or is the "dreadful" related to the difficulty in utilizing it??
                  Uhhhh, all of the above. It takes two dozen lines of XBasic to create a silly little 2d chart?

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                    Re: V10 Desktop features

                    JP,
                    Can you be a little more specific on how to do this?
                    If I knew your first name I could! :p

                    all of the above.
                    Does RMChart do enough? I may have a way to use it in a report (doesn't work as is currently). This charting software is freeware but is also no longer being developed--no website either any longer so have to use Google to find out its capabilities...use RMChart Image as search words to see some charts it can produce.

                    It takes two dozen lines of XBasic to create a silly little 2d chart
                    That is why I created a function for this--one function with most chart parameters as arguments that generate any SimpleChart automatically.

                    ....I have just started messing with it again so may be available soon (along with the RMChart possibly but that will take longer as just started with it). I am thinking of creating not only the function but a form/xdialog interface as well to control the charting....do not know if there is enough demand for this though is why development only occurs when I need something more.
                    Mike
                    __________________________________________
                    It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                    It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                    Henry David Thoreau
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