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  • Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

    I have a client who wants to be able to put bulleted lists in a letter in A5v9 but can't find a way of doing it. Any ideas?

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

    I think that v9 has HTML memo fields which I believe suppots bullets. Do a test and check it out. If you like what you get you will either have to import the client's field into the HTML field or possibly just convert the field type(?) - make sure you have a secure backup copy first.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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    • #3
      Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

      You could do this in several ways. A simple one that comes to mind is to put calc field that evaluates to true for each record in the list and when true it shows a character, then use Wingding font to have the desired bullet look.
      Something like:
      calc_field=if(..condition producing a record in the list..,"X","")
      I am not sure, but you could make a bullet out of "X" or some other character. Just using "X" as an example.

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      • #4
        Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

        Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
        You could do this in several ways. A simple one that comes to mind is to put calc field that evaluates to true for each record in the list and when true it shows a character, then use Wingding font to have the desired bullet look.
        Something like:
        calc_field=if(..condition producing a record in the list..,"X","")
        I am not sure, but you could make a bullet out of "X" or some other character. Just using "X" as an example.
        Yes, it can be done this way except that if the bulleted line is long and needs to wrap around to a 2nd line, I know of no way to have a hanging indent for the 2 nd line, and thus it does not have the look of a properly formatted bulleted list. If someone knows of a way to do, please share.

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        • #5
          Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

          The calc field (bullet) is on the left, displace it as much as you want to make it look indented. The list item to the right of it. The list item could have word-wrap and the whole thing will have the look you are thinking of.


          Later...
          The look you want, and then some:


          No bullet for the third item as it didn't meet the condition (for illustration purpose only), which in your case, wouldn't and shouldn't show on the list, i.e. filtered out.
          Last edited by G Gabriel; 02-18-2010, 12:21 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

            G,

            I suppose I was reading too much of my own issue into the question asked. I don't think your suggestion would work for what I was thinking of, which is a case in which a whole slew of calc fields (potential bullet items) go into an rtf box with a soft return after each calc field so those that those that don't come out true are skipped and the rtf box is set to expand as needed on printing. This works perfectly if one does not care about hanging indents when a text item needs two or more lines.

            If one uses one calc field for the bullet character in one rtf box and a separate calc field for the text item in another rtf box to the right of the bullet character (again with multiple calc fields in each box set to expand on printing), I don't see any way to make this work if some, based on the value of the calc, are to print and others are to be skipped, and one wants hanging indents for the text items when 2 or more lines are needed.

            Regardless of the number of rtf boxes or anything else, if you see a way to do this, please share.

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            • #7
              Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

              Like this?

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              • #8
                Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                I think this has all got way too complicated. All the client wanted to do was type in the text of a letter and mark some of it as bulleted. These are typists, not programmers. They just wanted to do a paragraph format as in, eg, Word. It seems A5 can't do that except by the rather naff way of using ALT keystrokes.

                Subject closed (at least by me).

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                • #9
                  Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                  Roland, did you try Peter's suggestion in post #2.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                    No, I didn't. The users are typists. They don't understand inserting HTML fields. They just want to ckick a button and format some text. End of.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                      Roland:
                      If it got out of hand is because of the way the question is phrased:
                      Originally posted by rbsystemsdesign View Post
                      I have a client who wants to be able to put bulleted lists in a letter
                      Clients don't write letters, they either:
                      1-Preview it, or
                      2-Print it, or
                      3-Type something either in a character field, a memo field or an RTF that eventually gets into the letter.

                      So, is the question: how to type a bulleted list in a memo or an RTF field?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                        They have a form set up as menu with a button on it which opens up the A5 Letter Editor. It's essentially similar to using the A5 Control Panel, Letter tab, New, pick a table and Go directly to the letter definition. This opens the A5 Letter Writer which, surprisingly, allows them to write a letter. When they have typed a few sentences they wanted to put in a few bullet points. The key words wre "Letter" and "Bullet". It seems some people look too deeply and imagine questions which aren't there. I'll try to be more pedantic next time (if there is one).

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                          The section in the Help file entitled "Placing an HTML Edit Control on a Form" suggests that this can be done, by using a "Microsoft Web Browser" ActiveX control and a little copy-and-paste coding.

                          I followed the instructions, but when I switch from design to form view, the onFetch form event blows up with
                          Script:OnFetch line:13
                          px.browsemode = .T.
                          Property not found
                          px.browsemode subelement not found.

                          and then the onActivate form event similarly blows up with
                          Script:OnActivate line:13
                          px.documenthtml = tbl.EXTRA_BLURB
                          Property not found
                          px.documenthtml subelement not found.

                          - where px is a pointer to the ActiveX object, as in
                          Code:
                          px = topparent:activex1.activex
                          It looks as though the ActiveX object doesn't have these properties (browsemode and documenthtml).

                          The instructions also tell you to modify the onkeypress() function of the ActiveX control, but there wasn't an onkeypress() function - I added one at the end.

                          This feels as though the Microsoft Web Browser control is the wrong control, but I know of no way to follow this up. Any ideas ?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                            The original thread was about creating bulleted lists in the A5 Letter Writer, nothing whatsoever to do with HTML Edit controls on a Form. That's why the thread title is "Bulleted lists in Letter Writer". (Maybe G. Gabriel should have read that as well before his response!)

                            I thought I had already made it clear that the users are typists and aren't going to be doing this sort of thing. Maybe you should read the whole thread instead of going down a new path.

                            The answer is simple. A5 can't do it with a built-in option from the text formatting commands available in Letter Writer. You can only do it by typing <ALT>0149 at the beginning of a line to get a rounded bullet character.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bulleted lists in Letter Writer

                              Originally posted by rbsystemsdesign View Post
                              I thought I had already made it clear that the users are typists and aren't going to be doing this sort of thing. Maybe you should read the whole thread instead of going down a new path.
                              See attached image please...
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                              Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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