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A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

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  • A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

    I am part of a small I.S. shop (3 of us) and we decided to move our Alpha Database environment to MY local C: drive until a replacement server comes in. No problem, right? NOT.

    I 'shutdown' my workstation about twice a week (no particular reason other than to reset things) after I run a DEFRAG and then boot. The problem is, if another user logs into the databases ahead of me (after my workstation is up and running) I cannot access the databases. Which means, I have to chase down my cohort to have him get out of the way.

    The issue created seems to be related to how the Alpha looks at which user has logged in first. Why does this matter? And how can I fix it? When we had the databases on the server (before it broke) this wasn't an issue. What's the difference?

    FYI: No one other than I.S., uses the databases. But we do plan to make a Help Desk Ticket database environment for the entire company that will be used by a couple hundred users after things are put in place. Of course, at that time, we won't have the databases on my C: drive. They will be on their own server.

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    Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

    The problem is, if another user logs into the databases ahead of me (after my workstation is up and running) I cannot access the databases.
    This is not a normal situation but I'm not completely clear on what you are saying. You have substituted your machine for the server effectively? The other user(s) are accessing the database across the network to your machine?

    What does "I cannot access the databases" mean? Do you get an error?
    There can be only one.


    • #3
      Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

      "Yes" to both of your questions about replacing the server with my C: drive AND the users going across the network to get to my C: drive. As for me not being able to access the databases; it's just that. I cannot open them at all. I can log into Alpha5 but not any of the databases. (That is, until the other user logs out and let's me go in ahead of him.)

      I'll get you the error message after our startup tomorrow morning.

      Until then, do you have any ideas as to what the cause is? Has this come up. I can't find a post that addresses it.


      • #4
        Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

        First thought here is that your license from Alpha is being maxed out by the other users, so your access to the database is blocked until one of them shuts down.


        • #5
          Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

          (That is, until the other user logs out and let's me go in ahead of him.)
          Tom's idea sounds right but this is puzzling.

          If you log in first then he can log in as well? But if he logs in first, you can't?
          There can be only one.


          • #6
            Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

            The licensing isn't a problem. We have two developer's licenses and there are only 2 of us doing the development work. (The 3rd I.S. guy is our manager and he doesn't touch things.)

            Right, Stan... As long as I log in first things work just fine. No error messages or anything like that.

            That is why I was wondering if there was some kind of heirarchy in Alpha5. Or maybe it has something to do with it being placed on my C: drive instead of a typical server. I can't imagine why that would matter but, I guess anything is possible.


            • #7
              Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

              Since your machine is not a server, what operating system? What system for your cohort?

              Here's an article about using xp file sharing that might help.
              There can be only one.


              • #8
                Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                We are an XP Pro (SP3) shop on all our workstations. The I.S. workstations are no different. The thing is, I used the same workstation (mine) as the beta environment when we first got A5v9, last year. The only difference is that it is now shared. Otherwise, everything is as it was.


                • #9
                  Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                  It happened again this morning. My cohort-in-crime logged in first and I could not get in until he moved out of the way. What makes this strange is, if I get in first we can BOTH use/see/edit the databases. But if he gets in first only HE can move around. I can't do anything. What's that about?!


                  • #10
                    Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                    And the error message is..................
                    There can be only one.


                    • #11
                      Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                      I didn't get a chance to get a screen shot (much less write down) the error message but... It says the user license has reached its limit and that someone needs to log off. The problem with the message is, we are both coming into work after having logged out the previous night, so the logins are fresh. And we have A5v9 (2 developers' licenses, unlimited users, etc.).


                      • #12
                        Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                        Check the Help, About Alpha Five..

                        to insure that the licenses for both machines are different.
                        There can be only one.


                        • #13
                          Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                          We've done that. My cohort is a network system's guy. Very savvy. He, and I, think it has something to do within Alpha5 itself. Right now, this isn't a critical issue but it may become one, once we put it back on the server and go "live".


                          • #14
                            Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                            check the shortcuts on the computers
                            they should be opening alpha on each local computer and pointing to the data on the one computer.

                            If one computer is pointing to a shortcut on another computer you will get this error.

                            C:\Program Files\a5v9\alpha5v9.exe d:\some directory\****.adb

                            Charlie crimmel


                            • #15
                              Re: A5v9 Heirarchy... Does it exist?

                              Check in Settings on the database that the license numbers are different on each PC.

                              You can get a situation like this when one of your PCs has 2 license numbers and the other has 1 ( the same as one of the ones on the other PC )registered.