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Is Your Network Setup Like Ours?

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    Is Your Network Setup Like Ours?

    Hello,

    We are trying to locate other Alpha Users that have networks set up like ours. We are having some problems and want to compare notes.

    Fundementally what is happening is that users don't seem to be able to update the indexes on tables during data entry. In an effort to trouble shoot this problem we have followed the sugestions of others and of Dr. Wayne in his "Simplify Your Applications" article. Data entry is now being done by only 2 of 12 users and is being done directly into the "default forms" of individual tables. Still the indexes are not being updated. All users are set up as "super users". Every one is running A5v4.5 build 266.

    If your network is set up like ours please drop me a line:

    N E T W O R K S P E C S

    Server Specs:
    Dell PowerEdge
    Windows 2000 Advanced Server Service Pack 1
    Raid 5 Hard Drive configuration
    File System is NTFS
    Pentium 350 Processor
    512 MB of RAM
    McAfee NetShield Anti-Virus software is currently disabled

    Workstation Specs:
    Dell Dimension
    Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack
    20 GB IDE Hard Drive
    Files system is NTFS
    Pentium 933 processor
    128 MB of RAM
    McAfee NetShield Anti-Virus software is currently running

    All NIC's are 10/100 and the hub is a 24 port 3COM fast ethernet switch.
    The only network protocol running is TCPIP and the server is doing DNS for the workstations.
    All new CAT-5 cable has been run and certified.

    Thanks for your time and energy.

    Rhett

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    RE: Is Your Network Setup Like Ours?

    Rhett,

    You said:

    Fundementally what is happening is that users don't seem to be able to update the indexes on tables during data entry.


    Could elaborate?

    Indexes defined for your tables should be updated automatically. Your users should not be doing anything in particular to update the indexes.

    Are you certain it's not a display problem? In some situations new or changed data may not appear on your form, because the form is not being refreshed or resynched. This typically happens when you are modifying data in the underlying table 'behind the form' using xbasic scripts.

    Are you saying that manual 'reindexing' fails? If so, this may be because there are other users on your network using the table in question when the reindex is begun. Reindexing requires exclusive access to the table by one workstation.

    Are you certain your users aren't working with different copies of the same application? The recommended scenario goes like this: All database tables and sets are stored in a single folder on your 'server'. None are stored on the workstations. Alpha Five is installed on the workstations, and run locally. Alpha Five is used to open the database on the server by connecting to the database folder over the network. If you network optimize your database, then - after optimization - your workstation should open and use the shadow copies of your database on the local workstation. Occasionally folks install things in more than one place, and since the forms all look the same to the user it's hard to tell which actual tables and indexes are being used at any one time. I can imagine a situation where one user is updating tables locally, and another is working with tables on the server. They 'think' they're updating the same table, but they're not. Changes made by each are 'invisible' to the other. See what I mean? I like to use the window title line to display the path to the current data set. Helps me keep things straight when I run into problems such as you describe.

    -- tom

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      RE: Is Your Network Setup Like Ours?

      Hi Tom,

      Thanks for your reply.

      We are way down the road on the troubleshooting and I just wanted to give a "reason" why we are asking if there are other users with the same type of network setup that we have.

      We have systematically eliminated all the issues you speak of plus many, many more.

      What we really need to find at this point is other companies that have the same type of network configuration that we do.

      Thanks again for your interest,

      Rhett

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