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    ��� in an index

    german letters like ���� (which are ae oe ue) in a4v6 and a5v4

    In a4v6 I can set an index for a city database and have the cities starting with special letters like ��� near the aou.
    In a4v5 those cities come at the end of the database. When trying to use the existing dbf; Iget strange letters for those german letters and have to look after each record.
    (The windows settings are set for german and metric system).

    #2
    RE: ��� in an index

    I have worked with this issue. The general approach is to use the accented characters in the data but to replace them with their unaccented equivalents in the index expression. In other words, in ordering names by last name my colleague Jacques whose last name is "Melan�on" will be after "Melis" but if I replace "�" with "c" in the index expression he is ordered before "Melis".

    So the required index expression is:
    function_to_remove_accents(lastname+firstname)
    where the function is a custom function. Lastname and firstname are of course the fields being indexed.

    The custom function (as usual) was produced with the aid of Ira Perlow. You can add other characters to the list for replacement. Test carefully. If you have machines with different setups (code pages) you may have problems. I did with a couple of deviant French machines but I cannot be sure it was this function which caused them.

    Bill

    function No_accents as C(input_string as C)

    ' Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting and indexing

    oldvals="����������"
    newvals="EECeeecaao"

    tmpstr = ""

    for i = 1 to len(input_string)
    vChar = substr(input_string,i,1)
    position=AT(vChar,oldvals)

    if position>0
    vChar=SUBSTR(newvals,position,1)
    end if

    tmpstr = tmpstr+vChar
    next

    no_accents = tmpstr

    end function
    Bill Hanigsberg

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      #3
      RE: ��� in an index

      Hi Bill,

      In recent times, I've done some studies as to the time that certain xbasic code takes.

      Some basic concepts for speed are

      1. Commented lines don't take longer to execute
      2. Code that is skipped (e.g. the false conditions of an IF or CASE Xbasic statement) add almost no overhead
      3. 2 assignments, e.g.
      a=substr(char,i,1)
      tmp=tmp+a

      take almost twice as long as
      tmp=tmp+substr(char,i,1)
      take almost twice as long as the single assignment. The exception would be if you had to use the "a" value more than once in other code

      4. Internal A5 functions are always preferable to XBasic code no matter how complex they are. (STRTRAN() is in my example below)

      5. In case A5 re-evaluates the ending value for each pass of the FOR loop, precalculate the value and then apply it in the FOR statement

      6. Never calculate the same value twice (e.g. vChar in your example is a correct way)

      For your code, the 1st speedup I would consider is as follows;


      function No_accents as C(input_string as C)

      'Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting and indexing

      oldvals="����������"
      newvals="EECeeecaao"

      tmpstr = ""

      lenstg=len(input_string)
      for i = 1 to lenstg
      vChar = substr(input_string,i,1)
      position=AT(vChar,oldvals)

      if position>0
      tmpstr = tmpstr+SUBSTR(newvals,position,1)
      else
      tmpstr = tmpstr+vChar
      end if

      next

      no_accents = tmpstr

      end function


      However, since this is a key routine that is needed in the indexing, it needs to be even faster if possible. While I wouldn't be overly concerned for some routines, this is a case where absolute speed is probably very important. The code below is about 3 times faster

      function No_accents as C(input_string as C)
      ' Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting
      ' and indexing. Newvals and oldvals should be the same length

      oldvals="����������"
      newvals="EECeeecaao"

      no_accents=input_string

      lenstg=len(newvals)
      for i=1 to lenstg
      no_accents=strtran(no_accents,substr(oldvals,i,1),substr(newvals,i,1))
      next

      end function


      The above routines time is bounded almost entirely by the length of newvals (or oldvals). The length of the input_string has almost no effect on execution time

      Regards,

      Ira J. Perlow
      Computer Systems Design & Associates
      [email protected]
      Regards,

      Ira J. Perlow
      Computer Systems Design


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        #4
        RE: ��� in an index

        Ira,

        Well you've done it again. Before too much more time passes you will have transformed me into an educated person. Thanks so much for an absolutely fascinating exploration. The best part is that there are principles here which can be generalized and applied elsewhere.

        All the best,
        Bill
        Bill Hanigsberg

        Comment


          #5
          RE: ��� in an index

          Thanks for your help!!!!
          I hope there is no remarkable speed difference when handling this way with 20000 records.
          Lu

          Comment


            #6
            RE: ��� in an index

            well done.
            One problem lasts. Each letter repalces one other letter exactly but how can I replace by two?
            � is equivalent to ae so how can I replace � by ae � by oe and � by oe?

            Lu

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              #7
              RE: ��� in an index

              Ludwig,

              Just modify the expression simply as

              function No_accents as C(input_string as C)
              ' Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting and indexing

              oldvals="� � � � � � � � � � � � � � "
              newvals="E E C e e e c a a o Aeaeoeoe"

              no_accents=input_string

              lenstg=len(newvals)
              for i=1 to lenstg step 2
              no_accents=strtran(no_accents,trim(substr(oldvals,i,2)),trim(substr(newvals,i,2)))
              next

              end function


              My question is would the string "aof" come before or after "a�c" Depending on what you want, you may have to translate the o to o!, A to A! etc to make sure the regular alphabet characters show up where you want in the sort.

              Regards,

              Ira J. Perlow
              Computer Systems Design & Associates
              [email protected]
              Regards,

              Ira J. Perlow
              Computer Systems Design


              CSDA A5 Products
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                #8
                RE: ��� in an index

                Hi Bill,

                I forgot one of the most useful spped enhancing techniques, referred to as "unrolling a loop"

                While less generic, this runs about 5.5 times faster than your original example

                function No_accents as C(input_string as C)
                ' Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting and indexing

                no_accents=input_string

                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","E")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","E")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","C")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","e")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","e")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","e")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","c")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","a")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","a")
                no_accents=strtran(no_accents,"�","o")

                end function


                Regards,

                Ira J. Perlow
                Computer Systems Design & Associates
                [email protected]
                Regards,

                Ira J. Perlow
                Computer Systems Design


                CSDA A5 Products
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                  #9
                  RE: ��� in an index

                  Hi Bill,

                  And just to obsess to the n'th degree, I combined unrolling the loop with less assignments and got this version that's about 8 times faster than your original.

                  function No_accents as C(input_string as C)
                  ' Replaces accented characters with unaccented equivalents for sorting
                  ' and indexing
                  no_accents=strtran(strtran(strtran(strtran(strtran(strtran(\
                  strtran(strtran(strtran(strtran(input_string,"�","E"),"�","E")\
                  ,"�","C"),"�","e"),"�","e"),"�","e")\
                  ,"�","c"),"�","a"),"�","a"),"�","o")

                  end function


                  The continuation line character backslash seems to have no effect on the final speed in case you are wondering.

                  Regards,

                  Ira J. Perlow
                  Computer Systems Design & Associates
                  [email protected]
                  Regards,

                  Ira J. Perlow
                  Computer Systems Design


                  CSDA A5 Products
                  New - Free CSDA DiagInfo - v1.39, 30 Apr 2013
                  CSDA Barcode Functions

                  CSDA Code Utility
                  CSDA Screen Capture


                  Comment


                    #10
                    RE: ��� in an index

                    super, super, super!!!!

                    Comment


                      #11
                      RE: ��� in an index

                      Hi again,

                      Ira, are you aware of any reliability issues connected to using user-defined functions in index expressions. I suppose there might be a speed penalty but is there anything else to worry about?

                      Thanks,
                      Bill
                      Bill Hanigsberg

                      Comment


                        #12
                        RE: ��� in an index

                        Hi Bill,

                        Yes. Using a user-defined function, or any, non-standard dBase III/IV function for that matter in the index expression makes the index expression (stored in the *.cdx file) incompatible with other programs that may use the index directly. This would typically be another dBase III/IV compatible program using and changing the index outside the confines of Alpha 5. Using an ODBC connection would not have this problem.

                        Regards,

                        Ira J. Perlow
                        Computer Systems Design & Associates
                        [email protected]
                        Regards,

                        Ira J. Perlow
                        Computer Systems Design


                        CSDA A5 Products
                        New - Free CSDA DiagInfo - v1.39, 30 Apr 2013
                        CSDA Barcode Functions

                        CSDA Code Utility
                        CSDA Screen Capture


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                          #13
                          RE: ��� in an index

                          Hi, Ira and others!
                          I�m new with a5, so I need a lot of help. I tried to use the function to change my index.

                          1. the table
                          Let�s say I have a simpe index for a table named customer.
                          Order expression is K_name

                          2. the function
                          I�ve tried to enter the following code with the Code Editor

                          function de_Umlaute as C()

                          oldvals="� � � � � � � "
                          newvals="AeOeUeaeoeue�!"

                          de_Umlaute=input_string
                          lenstg=len(newvals)
                          for i=1 to lenstg step 2
                          de_Umlaute=strtan(de_Umlaute,trim(substr(oldvals,i,2)),trim(substr(newvals,i,2)))

                          next

                          end function

                          3. saving
                          I then saved this function and tried to use it in the Index Builder. I found the new function in the list, so I tried to enter
                          de_Umlaute(K_name) or de_Umlaute(trim(K_Name)) under order expression and save it I got an error saying "Too many parameters"

                          Where�s my fault?????

                          L. Beil
                          EMAIL: [email protected]

                          Comment


                            #14
                            RE: ��� in an index

                            Ludwig:

                            You made a small typo. Try
                            function de_Umlaute as C(input_string as c)

                            Bill
                            Bill Hanigsberg

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                              #15
                              RE: ��� in an index

                              I tried that. These are my conditions:
                              My customer table has a field named K_name.
                              I have created an index Name01 with an expression expression trim(K_name).

                              I tried to use the index expressions:
                              de_Umlaute(trim(K_Name)
                              de_umlaute(K_Name)
                              de_Umlaute(trim(K_Name)
                              which were created with the expression builder. Are those valid expressions or should they be named like

                              function de_Umlaute(trim(K_Name) ???

                              When I use the first ones I get an error saying

                              command:
                              de_Umlaute=strtan(de_Umlaute,trim(substr(oldvals,i,2)),trim(substr(newvals,i,2))
                              function is not recognized
                              This message only shows two ) at the end of the expression. In the expression builder I have 3)
                              Why???????



                              L. Beil
                              EMAIL: [email protected]

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