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  • problems with runtime vanish with full

    have been having problems when users exit alpha with runtime 4.03 - sometimes exits successfully but leaves something in memory, and for example when you restart the computer get message, "application not responding, etc."

    or, when exiting get "alpha5 has performed an illegal action, etc."

    sometimes, the only rcourse is to restart

    when I realized that the only computers I was having these problems with were using runtime, I installed the full version as a test - and the problems immediately vanished.

    when closing i am running scripts and operations that look for blank records or invalid records, compact, etc.

    has anyone else had similar problems
    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
    972 524 8714
    [email protected]

    "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

  • #2
    RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

    Martin, I don't recall any differences such as you describe. I do think it's important that the runtime version & build match the version & build that was used to construct the application.

    Is it possible the users are bypassing your Exit button, using the System Menu to close out Alpha Five with the little 'X' in top right corner of the Alpha Five window? I suppose this could cause certain processes to be incomplete...

    -- tom


    • #3
      RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

      versiobns are same - and i have a cancel() at canexit on every form

      i think it has to do with the scripts and operations I'm running

      i think i will try moving them to a button in my utilities menu
      Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
      972 524 8714
      [email protected]

      "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw


      • #4
        RE: problems with runtime vanish with full


        I have mentioned this before as I was having unpredictable crashes or sometimes Alpha closed leaving A5Halt running. This created errors when the client re loaded. I could never duplicate the problem on my machine with exactly the same software as their runtime version. After exhaustive processes of elimination I 99% narrowed the culprit down to color equations on embedded browses. I removed them and all has been well. I would feel happier if someone else could relate to the same problems that I encountered.

        It would be interesting to know if you do use color equations in embedded browses.



        • #5
          RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

          yes i do

          in many places i let users select a row by entering or double clicking and setting it to red - bold -

          i heard through the grapevine that a new version of A5V4 - containing many of the features of A5V5 - will be for sale November 1 - but since its November 2 - maybe a while yet - was hoping the new version would fix these problems
          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
          972 524 8714
          [email protected]

          "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw


          • #6
            RE: problems with runtime vanish with full


            I also use color equations in my browses and do not experience the problem you are having.
            I have put an exit button on my entering form called menu, and on every form I have a button called Menu/Exit, so all users are using that button to exit A5.




            • #7
              RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

              Yes. I live on color equations - in browses and elsewhere. No problems whatsoever.
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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              • #8
                RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

                It may have been bad syntax in my expressions, but they were straight forward. Since I removed the color equations the problems have not returned. I stress that it never occurred on my development computer only on certain client's machines using runtime versions.

                I hope this does'nt distract from Martin's original question.



                • #9
                  RE: problems with runtime vanish with full

                  No - no problem

                  I don't think we have really isolated the cause - though.
                  But I have moved my closing operations and scripts to a button in "utilities." - the part i am referring to is that it is looking for open files to close. while alpha does the same thing, i'm sure, i threw it in there anyway, since i was having sticky problems.

                  i also don't know if this script helps or not, but I have it in my close button:

                  on error goto noproblem
                  x=sys_shell(substr(a_db_current_path,1,3) + alltrim(var->office) + "daily.bat",2)

                  files = filefind.first(A_DB_CURRENT_PATH+"*.dbf")
                  WHILE .not. files.eof()
                  table_name =
                  flag = Table.isopen(table_name)
                  if flag
                  end if
                  END WHILE

                  Resume next
                  Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                  972 524 8714
                  [email protected]

                  "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw