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  • W32.ElKern.4926

    I had this nasty virus and didn't know it until now. It goes to my address book, picks out a name and sends itself to others and indicating it came from the name it picked out. It was a sleeper and activated on the 6th. I downloaded a repair tool from Norton so hopefully it's gone. I hope none of you caught this cold. If so, go to http:||securityreponse.symantec.com and download the repair tool. The | represents a backslash.

    kenn
    TYVM :) kenn

    Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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    RE: W32.ElKern.4926

    Ken and others,
    This thing and its cousins continue to run around the internet. For a while I was getting 3 or 5 a day; many with return addressess from people on this bulletin board. Fortunately McAfee VirusScan catches the messages when I try to open them. What a pain. Why don't the authors learn Alpha5 and do something useful to humanity with their talents.

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    • #3
      RE: W32.ElKern.4926

      Ohlen,

      How mine got there the first time I don't know. I have 2 hard drives on my computer and the virus was on the drive I don't use and had spread to the other hard drive. I do remember opening a file awhile back from what I thought was a reputable source and there was nothing there, or so I thought.

      I don't open any of these files (anymore)if I'm not 100% positive it's a legit email. They're usually not too hard to ID. Many come back as undeliverable messages. When ya didn't send anything out, that's a clue.) The ones that look odd, I check the properties for the sender info but even then, that's not safe. If I think someone may have sent me an email I'm not sure about, I'll send an email to that person and ask if they sent me anything before opening it.

      kenn
      TYVM :) kenn

      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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      • #4
        RE: W32.ElKern.4926

        Ken

        Like Ohlen, I have received variations of this virus many times (but not the version you had!) I have one email address linked to our's companies web site. I got nearly a dozen hits one day in a 10 minute period. Thanks goodness for Norton antivirus. But a word of warning. NEVER open an email with an attachment automatically or without first checking the title of the attachement. Most viruses have a characteristic attachment name format. If in doubt, delete it, and run antivirus immediately. You do not want to get infected, especially on a network. Our comapny has over 200 computers on one network that was infected. It tooks days to stop the infection.

        Jerry

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        • #5
          RE: W32.ElKern.4926

          Jerry,
          Your point about not opening a file is great and common advice. I have Outlook Express set to not automatically open received mail. However, it tries to open the mail when I click on it and I must click on it first before I can delete it. A click followed by a quick delete seems to work but I'm wondering if there's another way.
          Ohlen

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          • #6
            RE: W32.ElKern.4926

            Ohlen,

            That's exactly what I was getting about a month ago. Simply clicking on the email but not opening an attachment was all that was needed. And, in order to delete it, one first had to click on it. Then the scramble began, trying to click the 'lil X before if completed it's thing. If that wasn't enough, I had to click the x 3-4 times.

            I'm told Alt-F4 works but habit kept the mouse busy so didn't think of Alt-F4.

            kenn
            TYVM :) kenn

            Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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            • #7
              RE: W32.ElKern.4926

              I finally ditched outlook express and bought express+, a little email client from Ibister the company which makes the Time and chaos datebook program.

              Express+ allows you to read headers without downloading them from the server. It was worth $30 to get away from having to think about the outlook problems.

              That said, the College server bounces hundreds of corrupt inbound messages daily. As a user I don't see this but the log on the server makes one gape at the volume of bad messages.

              Bill
              Bill Hanigsberg

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              • #8
                RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                I turned off Show preview pane under Outlook Express's View, Layout so it's safe to look at and click the Subject line. Then I can delete an evil message straight off or check out its Properties, Details, Message source and read the code behind the whole thing safely.

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                • #9
                  RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                  I've generally had good success by not downloading files from any emails where I've not contacted the people recently or at all. Its easy to observe that there is no discussion or personal information in the email about the file other than a typical come on such as "See my new game" I'm glad I never bothered looking now!

                  Windows and MS products seem to install with poor security or many of the secure features turned off. Some email software does this too, so users need to go and turn off all the "features" such as automatic downloading and unpacking of files, along with the Java and ActiveX program features that can also hijack your computer. This keeps rogue web sites from doing much damage too. Always make other systems ask for permission before they download files to your computer, you then have a chance of preventing and tracing their activity.

                  One friend recently recieved a browser "upgrade" that actss to advertise a web address every time they start an internet chat with another person.

                  Dave

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                  • #10
                    RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                    David,

                    I've generally had good success by not downloading files from any emails where I've not contacted the people recently or at all. How do you do not download email? Do you mean only preview and not open them?

                    kenn
                    TYVM :) kenn

                    Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                    • #11
                      RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                      I use a program called mail washer.

                      It allows one to preview email at ISP level (as I understand it), without actually opening it.

                      One can view the title and even look at the content in text (no html as I think viruses can reside there).

                      Another beauty is one can bounce back dodgy emails as if sent from the ISP as “undeliverable”, without ones own name appearing.

                      Maybe this similar to yours William Hanigsberg? but this works in conjunction with Outlook or Outlook express.

                      Address is www.mailwasher.net. It’s shareware with a voluntary $3 to $50 “tip” up to you.

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                        RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                        oops i put message in wrong place - it should be here.


                        I use a program called mail washer.

                        It allows one to preview email at ISP level (as I understand it), without actually opening it.

                        One can view the title and even look at the content in text (no html as I think viruses can reside there).

                        Another beauty is one can bounce back dodgy emails as if sent from the ISP as “undeliverable”, without ones own name appearing.

                        Maybe this similar to yours William Hanigsberg, but this works in conjunction with Outlook or Outlook express?

                        Address is www.mailwasher.net. It’s shareware with a voluntary $3 to $50 “tip” up to you.

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                        • #13
                          RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                          Robin,

                          Thanks! Now, there's a helpgul, friendly piece of advice!!

                          kenn
                          TYVM :) kenn

                          Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                          • #14
                            RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                            Ken,

                            After reading about the poor security in Internet Explorer, I went through Explorer and turned off all the automatic execution of Java script and ActiveX code, had it refuse any downloads unless my permission was given, and raised the security level to 3/4 of maximum. This stops any hidden code and downloads from running on my computer. I've even heard it's possible to have ActiveX code inside a JPG picture file on a web page.

                            I also went through my AOL software, found and raised the security there, and turned off the automatic unpacking of ZIP files. Any AOL or Yahoo mail I get with a file shows that it has an attachment. I can also read the email without getting the download. Downloads also show their file name on the permission request box before they arrive. All the warnings allow me to see and stop any bad behavior.

                            I set this all up about three years ago after reading in Info World that many products had lax security settings which was a distinct problem for those in large corporate network maintanence.

                            Dave

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                            • #15
                              RE: W32.ElKern.4926

                              Dave,

                              I've even heard it's possible to have ActiveX code inside a JPG picture file on a web page.

                              I think you're right. After the 911 thing hit, there were news stories about terroists sending messages back and forth via jpg files with code hidden within.

                              I guess one has to judge what amount of secutity to include on their computer by the value of the computer's contents.

                              Thanks for your insights.

                              kenn
                              TYVM :) kenn

                              Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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