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    #16
    RE: Hard Drive Reformat

    Ohlen,
    In his case where he has two OS's on the same drive without
    intentionally installing them it is about the best way to go. If he
    has backups and the application disks it should run smoothly. Of
    course he will have to load the video, sound,modem and motherboard
    drivers. The upside is that he will have a clean system as long as he
    doesn't allow his startup folder to fill up just because the
    applications he reloads want to be first and foremost.

    efs

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      #17
      RE: Hard Drive Reformat

      efs,

      Are there any more "of courses"? I guess I better get the disks for everything on the computer and hope I don't have a 'slipped disk'.

      Any more words of wisdom? Better yet, how about coming over tomorrow and do it for me. I doub't I'm much further than a hop, skip and a jump away. Yah, right!!

      kenn
      TYVM :) kenn

      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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        #18
        RE: Hard Drive Reformat

        Hi, Ken -

        Considering the time you're spending on this problem and the importance of having a truly reliable disk, it sounds like you ought to buy a new hard drive and set it up from scratch with a pristine version of Windows.

        After it's running, shut down and attach your old drive as a "D" drive or whatever. Then reinstall your programs - such as Alpha-5 for example, and then copy all the data and other stuff. Copying the programs won't do the job - you've gotta reinstall them or the registry won't have the right information.

        I just went through a similar situation, and kept putting off biting the bullet. After I did it right, I realized that I could have saved about 4 days by doing it right at the start.

        Regards,

        Leon Brachman
        [email protected]

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          #19
          RE: Hard Drive Reformat

          Hi Leon,

          There's a lot of valu in your advice. I haven't done anything with it yet as I want to do this one time.

          I tired to put some humor into this with my last response to efs but sometimes my humor can be a bit factitious. I hope it was't taken as a 'grump'.

          Thanks for your suggestion.

          kenn
          TYVM :) kenn

          Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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            #20
            RE: Hard Drive Reformat

            Ken,
            Make sure you save your email addresses and bookmarks. When I went through this I thought I'd saved them, but I hadn't. I'm still rebuilding my address book and bookmarks. Also, I somehow forgot to save our Christmas card list and lost that. BTW, if you get a chance send me your new email address.
            Ohlen

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              #21
              RE: Hard Drive Reformat

              Hi Ken,

              This sounds a lot more drastic than it really is, as long as you have
              the drivers for your peripherals and your application disks. You
              should windup with a drive compatable with a new one. Bite the bullet
              and do it then pound your chest and roar IT WORKS .... IT WORKS ....
              IT WORKS like new again. The next piece of advice is to go into your
              startup folder and remove any extraneous garbage, leaving only
              necessary files to run your PC. In my case, I only have "system tray",
              and "explorer". This will make for faster boot-ups and shut-downs and
              leave more RAM available which will obviously speed up your PC.

              efs

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                #22
                RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                Ken,

                I have experience with Win2K installations. To perform a clean install and format the hard drive (losing all data) you will need to do the following;
                Boot using the Win2K installation CD, after the install routine checks your system and such, you will see a menu asking if you wish to install or repair. (I'm am going by memory here so some of the steps may be out of order) Choose install. Then you will have some options like "install on current partition" and the partition will be hi-lited. Check the other options available, I believe if you stirke the "D" key to delete the current partition, it will take you to another screen of which you will have to strike the "L" key to confirm the deletion. Then you will be brought back to the installation screen. The choices would be to install on the un-allocated space or create an partition. If you wish to have more than one partition on the drive, choose create partition otherwise choose install on un-allocated space. Then you will be asked to format the partition using FAT or NTFS, make your choice for the format option and then you are on your way.
                I hope this helps.

                Rick

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                  #23
                  RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                  Ken,
                  Boot.ini is on all win 2000 systems. It is located in the root directory (usually C:) if you look in it you will wind it is a text file which references all the microsoft operating sytems on the computer and if you have win2000 installed twice it will be referenced twice allowing you to select where to boot from. You can comment out reference to one and it won't see it. It's been a while since I have edited a boot.ini and I forget if you use "rem" or ";". You can find more about it on the support.microsoft site. While you can delete reference to one OS and then delete the OS and the folder that contains it this might be tricky. I don't remember what happens to the registry when you do this.
                  If you have a backup of everything you might be better off reformatting and reinstalling everything. I wouldn't do a system restore because you will put all the junk back in the registry that you are getting rid of with the reinstall. Usually an OS reinstall makes a machine run better and eliminates some of the odd errors that occur.

                  Russ

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                    #24
                    RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                    If you plan on usung a network, choose NTFS.
                    efs

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                      #25
                      RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                      Ken,
                      Don't forget to tell us how you made out when it is done.
                      Ed

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                        #26
                        RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                        For those who asked, here's an update.

                        Whew, what a task this has been. I tried several times to repair 'one' of the bad particians which I presume was the first one. However, w2k didn't quite get it all together so the repair nerver worked out. I ended up buying a 40 G HD and formating that and loading w2k. Took some doing to get the network card recognized as w2k was blind to it, even after pulling the card, rebooting, shutting down, reinserting the card and starting up again. So, I had to do it all manually and finally got the drivers installed and the network operating.

                        Copied the files I needed from C drive to the new F drive. Must say that w2k didn't give me the same options on the old HD as the new, perhaps because the new HD hadn't been formated.

                        Anyhow, just have to import the address books and email from the old HD and then to reformat it.

                        Does anyone know if I can rename the new HD to Drive C and the old to Drive F? Is that possible? If so, how?

                        kenn
                        TYVM :) kenn

                        Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                          #27
                          RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                          Hi Ken,

                          I don't know about W2K, but you can certainly rename the drive in
                          device manager in W9x. In some cases it renames itself when it is the
                          boot drive. For the future buy DriveCopy from Powerquest, it will
                          partition, format and copy a hard drive that is bootable. I use it a
                          lot for people that are upgrading to a larger drive. The only caveat
                          is that the new drive must be of equal length or larger. It will
                          proportion logical drives exactly to match the old drive.

                          Hope this helps,
                          efs

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                            #28
                            RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                            efs,

                            R-Ya-Sure? All my win 98 device manager shows are the devices. How in the world wood-ya rename the drive?

                            I thought that w2k would rename the drives but it didn't. I'll check out DriveCopy.

                            Thanks,

                            kenn
                            TYVM :) kenn

                            Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                              #29
                              RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                              Hi Ken,

                              I'll try from memory. In device manager, hilite the drive then select
                              properties, settings. Down near the bottom you will see drive letters
                              change them to what you want and click OK.

                              Hope this helps,
                              efs

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                                #30
                                RE: Hard Drive Reformat

                                efs,

                                Yes, your memory is correct. It's a bit different in win 2k and burried a bit deeper but it can be changed.

                                Thanks,

                                kenn
                                TYVM :) kenn

                                Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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