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  • "Enter new record"...not blank

    Does anybody know how to prevent A5v5 from copying the current viewed record into the new record when a new record is created.

    The user guide clearly states that the new record is blank, but I find you have to go through it to delete all the copied data first...a real pain.

    Paul Simison..

  • #2
    RE:

    This isn't necessary in the typical case.

    Do you see the same behavior using the default form for your table?

    Is there a set involved? Describe it's settings. Is the new record being started in the primary table? Is this where the extraneous "spill over" field values is occurring also, or are they appearing in related child table records?

    How are you beginning the new record?

    -- t

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    • #3
      RE:

      Do you have an field value defaults defined in the field rules? These will populate a new record if they are set for "Set value at start of data entry" on the data entry tab.
      There can be only one.

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      • #4
        RE:Unwanted duplicate records

        Tom..

        No sets.
        No child tables.
        The default form does the same thing.
        This is a simple plain vanilla database.
        The new record is started in the primary (and only) table.
        I find the same behaviour using all three methods as described in the user guide page 61.

        If a record is being created, and when done I want to create another, I hit the new record icon (etc) it duplicates the current new record into the newnew record.

        In default form, I can avoid the problem by not having a field highlighted.

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        • #5
          RE:

          Stan.. see reply to Tom Cone.

          "No sets.
          No child tables.
          The default form does the same thing.
          This is a simple plain vanilla database.
          The new record is started in the primary (and only) table.
          I find the same behaviour using all three methods as described in the user guide page 61.

          If a record is being created, and when done I want to create another, I hit the new record icon (etc) it duplicates the current new record into the newnew record.

          In default form, I can avoid the problem by not having a field highlighted."

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          • #6
            RE:

            Paul

            You should post a copy of the database so we can try that.

            Please include enough instructions to make it easy.

            I would think that you are already on the latest patch for v5.....

            Might want to check that.
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
            Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

            Occam's Razor - KISS
            Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
            Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
            When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.

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            • #7
              RE:unwanted data in new record

              I tried the version 6 patch. I note that in the "about" window it still says version 5, but the version/build has updated to 1506/1058.

              I will now try making a new database with one table, with three fields to play with. If it exhibits the same behaviour I will post it.

              Paul Simison..

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              • #8
                RE:unwanted data in new record

                Paul

                I don't understand the reference to the version 6 patch. It has nothing to do with the version 5 that I assume that you are running - since you posted in this forum and talked about version 5 patch numbers. You are on the latest v5 patch that I know of.

                If you tried to patch v5 with a v6 patch, it should be ignored by v5. It considers each version to be separate programs on your system.
                Al Buchholz
                Bookwood Systems, LTD
                Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                Occam's Razor - KISS
                Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.

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                • #9
                  RE:unwanted data in new record

                  You are quite right..Silly me...I didn't look closely enough at the page on the Tech Support area, I thought the patch upped it to version 6. The patch I used is the 9.9Mbyte file. I should have read the headers a bit more carefully.

                  Anyway...it doesn't help.

                  Paul S

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                  • #10
                    RE:

                    I tried making a little test database with two fields and one table. It works just like it should. I searched the field rules of the misbehaving one...nothing unexpected.

                    Paul S

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                    • #11
                      RE:

                      Paul

                      Have you tried compacting the database?

                      Did you have field rules that were previously doing some type of use previous values?

                      What happens in the default form? Use that instead of a custom form to test field rules without other interference.
                      Al Buchholz
                      Bookwood Systems, LTD
                      Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                      Occam's Razor - KISS
                      Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                      Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                      When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.

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                      • #12
                        RE:Unwanted data in new record

                        1...The default form does the same thing.
                        2...No wierd field rules...anyway if it used previous data, it would only copy those fields with that rule, and I have searched all fields tagged with field rules...they are few in number, and all clean.
                        3...Compacting didn't help.

                        I am tempted to create a new database and copy all the data into it to sidestep the problem, but I want to know what is wrong for future use.

                        Paul S..

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                        • #13
                          RE:Unwanted data in new record

                          Paul

                          On the 11th I asked you to put a copy of the database on a message so we can look at it.

                          Is that a possibility?

                          Otherwise I don't know what else to suggest. Some times you just gotta get it in your hands to see it.
                          Al Buchholz
                          Bookwood Systems, LTD
                          Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                          Occam's Razor - KISS
                          Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                          Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                          When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.

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                          • #14
                            RE:Unwanted data in new record

                            The thing that was stopping me was that I am not sure which files to include. There are eleven, and obviously the .adb is not enough.

                            Paul S.
                            nnnn

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                            • #15
                              RE:Unwanted data in new record

                              Paul

                              Here is an image of what you should do to zip the database.

                              Then attach the database to a message using the Attach File option on the create message form. Or send it to my email address which is shown by clicking my name.

                              Let us know if that works or not.
                              Al Buchholz
                              Bookwood Systems, LTD
                              Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                              Occam's Razor - KISS
                              Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                              Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                              When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.

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