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Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

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    Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

    Hi All

    Q1: is A5 a true client server product

    Q2: how many tables can I link together for a set and still get speedy results over
    A network I saw a post about only connecting 2 tables for a form in many cases
    You need to connect up more then 2 tables in a set and still get speedy response
    Over a network.

    Q3: can I build applications for anytime anyplace on any device meaning I want
    To be able to get to my data on a cell phone (WAP) a web browser (HTTP) and
    HTTPS) and voice enable my application.

    Q4: can we use XML in A5

    Q5: can A5 use tree like list boxes to give it an explorer feeling

    Q6: y are the forms not rich looking like MS VS.NET I have played around a bit
    With A5 and no matter how I slice the cake I cant get a rich professional look
    Like visual studio Y.

    I don�t want to have to learn 2 or 3 different products to get the above results is
    A5 up to the task or should I go with the big boys Microsoft I don�t want to get
    Landlocked at some point like I did with Alpha DOS after spending 18 Months
    In development this would not make Ray a happy camper (We are giving you a
    Shot hear lets hear your comments)

    Thanks
    Ray

    #2
    RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

    Ray:

    I can address Q1 and Q2 (from a 4.5 look getting ready to upgrade to 5 and can't wait).

    Q1 - I beleive it is truely client server based if you build it correctly. I currently have close to 20 different apps running in three states over a frame relay network. The development time is slow (making changes adding new features, etc.), but actually using the apps with the runtime version, there is little noticeable speed lose (I only have T1's and a couple of them have multiple PVC's running on them)

    Q2 - I've never run into a problem with the number of tables in a set. About ten of the above apps have multiple sets with well of ten tables associated. They work just fine. I try to limit my relationships to what seems logical for the app that I'm building. These apps track everything from jobs to invoicing to inventory and just about anything else you can think of. I'm working on a interface with a new Unix box that our corporate requires us to use. Their having more trouble than I am.

    A5 has a lot more features than 4.5 and I've been building some pretty good user screen presentations using 4.5 as well as 5 (I have 5 at home doing some other work).

    This applications is one the easiest and most powerful things I've every used. There isn't much I've found over the years that I haven't been able to do (and I rarely right any code. I let Alpha do it for me)

    Hope this helps a little.

    Bob

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      #3
      RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

      Hi All

      Q1: is A5 a true client server product

      Q2: how many tables can I link together for a set and still get speedy results over
      A network I saw a post about only connecting 2 tables for a form in many cases
      You need to connect up more then 2 tables in a set and still get speedy response
      Over a network.

      Q3: can I build applications for anytime anyplace on any device meaning I want
      To be able to get to my data on a cell phone (WAP) a web browser (HTTP) and
      HTTPS) and voice enable my application.

      Q4: can we use XML in A5

      Q5: can A5 use tree like list boxes to give it an explorer feeling

      Q6: y are the forms not rich looking like MS VS.NET I have played around a bit
      With A5 and no matter how I slice the cake I cant get a rich professional look
      Like visual studio Y.

      I don�t want to have to learn 2 or 3 different products to get the above results is
      A5 up to the task or should I go with the big boys Microsoft I don�t want to get
      Landlocked at some point like I did with Alpha DOS after spending 18 Months
      In development this would not make Ray a happy camper (We are giving you a
      Shot hear lets hear your comments)

      Thanks
      Ray

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        #4
        RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

        Hello Ray,

        >>Q1: is A5 a true client server product >Q2: how many tables can I link together for a set and still get speedy results over A network>Q3: can I build applications for anytime anyplace on any device meaning I want To be able to get to my data on a cell phone (WAP) a web browser (HTTP) and HTTPS) and voice enable my application. >Q4: can we use XML in A5 >Q5: can A5 use tree like list boxes to give it an explorer feeling>Q6: y are the forms not rich looking like MS VS.NET I have played around a bit

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          #5
          RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

          Ray:

          I'm not what could be considered an expert in either VS or Alpha. However, I do have experience programming in VS 6 and Access, and am now learning Alpha. Here's my 2 cents:

          Alpha has many things going for it in terms of pre-existing (canned) functionality vs Visual Studio. For one thing, it's very easy to do things with email and document conversions in Alpha, whereas in VS I know I'd wind up having to go in through MAPI and OLE to do some of the things I would want to do. I do agree that Alpha does not quite seem to have some of the "niceties" in terms of stylesheets and icons/bmps that VS has, but keep in mind that VS has the entire MS op-sys library to draw on!

          I really can't answer your questions about XML, except to say that I believe the new A5WAS will bring the power of Alpha to the web...hopefully XBasic will incorporate some XML extensions in future versions.

          Hope this has been informative, if not helpful.

          Dennis Jones

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            #6
            RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

            To all so far thank you for your input I also purchases
            The 4.5 upgrade and I am suppose to get a discount on V5
            Anyone no how to get the discount

            Ray

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              #7
              RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

              I am not sure there is a discount. I upgraded from 4.5 and got a credit back for my 4.5 purchse. That depends, as I understand it, when you bought 4.5.

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                #8
                RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

                Ray:

                Alpha will indeed "credit" what you paid for your A5v4.5 product, towards your A5v5 license upgrade.

                Contact a customer service representative at Alpha Software directly, (781) 229-4500. They will be happy to look up your previous v4.5 purchase information, and tell you what your A5v5 net upgrade cost will be.

                Please note the v4.5 rebate expires end of business next Monday, March 31, 2003. You will need to make your a5v5 purchase prior to (or on) that date for your v4.5 rebatte to be applied to your a5v5 upgrade.

                -Jeannette
                Customer Service Representative, Alpha Software

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                  #9
                  RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

                  Hi Jim

                  Thank you for the reply I will have to find something to
                  Show you but all I can say is the forms are crisp and sharp
                  (Professional) looking the forms have depth I can�t explain
                  It O I no look at the A5WAS server control panel page
                  was.alphasoftware.com/configuring.html
                  The page is clean with a nice line going around to separate the detail aria this is just one example.

                  The last time I played with V5 you could not get this look
                  And you could not put a heading in the frame like the word
                  "Detail" can you do this now? Can you indent the line now?
                  Nice and clean?

                  Than you
                  Ray

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                    #10
                    RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

                    Selwyn and Richard may kill me for this, but after reading several of your posts (and even replying to one of them) I am going to be so bold as to suggest that you would probably be better off going with, as you put it, the "big boys" at Microsoft.

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                      #11
                      RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

                      Hi Ray

                      Thank you for the reply could you please tell me y the
                      Big boys over Alpha if you prefer you may email me and
                      Thank you for being so bold better to have a happy customer
                      Then dump 18 months of work into a product then have to
                      Go else were I have to refer customers sometimes I don�t
                      Like it but you no what they remember and they will come
                      Back for something else so (ALPHA DONT SHOOT THE MESENGER)

                      Ray

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                        #12
                        RE: Is Alpha V5 Up To The Task.

                        I was saddened to hear of the untimely death of Ray Lyons :)

                        Russ

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