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  • changing development tool

    Hello Alpha workers,
    After 2 years of having discussions with a lot of developers, using trial versions from different tools and even buying the complete products (WinDev and AlphaFive) we have decided to migrate all our apps developed in MAGIC to ALPHAFIVE. So we have a lot to learn and I will bother you in the (near) future with a lot of questions.
    I had already posted a message at this forum in which I also mentioned Magic, but nobody with Magic experience reflects. I am wondering if there are previous, or maybe current, Magic developers in the Alpha community ?

    I hope to met you all at this forum.

    Kind regards,
    Teun van Unen - UNDIX InformatieSystemen - The Netherlands

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    RE: changing development tool


    Is Magic anything like Informix ?




    • #3
      RE: changing development tool

      Hello Peter,
      I only know Informix from C-Isam, but Magic is a magnificent development tool, but because of the high cost only for big companies. For information you can better go to their website :

      Anr/or you can download eDeveloper's (name of the last version V9.4) guides with the following link^l51&enZone=downloads&enretain=branch&lNavZ=tech_t_devr&lNavO=tech_tools^l45&branch=hqa

      Or have a look at the forum :

      Or you can download a Fundamental's Training Course at :

      Magic is and has no database itself but can connect to a lot of them. See their information.
      To learn Magic it is better to know nothing about a programming tool and start fresh (I did not) because it's an 'abnormal' approach of making programs.

      I hope this will help a little bit.

      Regards, Teun.


      • #4
        RE: changing development tool


        Thanks for the info. I had heard of Magic 4GL sometime in the past and someone had described it as 'similar to Informix 4GL' hence the question. As a matter of interest why are you migrating away from Magic ??




        • #5
          RE: changing development tool

          Hi Peter,
          There are more reasons :
          The costs of Magic raises the price of my apps and support-contract, so it the prices became to high for the small market with a lot of competitors
          1. for every customer you had to buy a runtime
          2. and a support-contract
          and another
          3. Magic goes 'to far' for me, I don't nead all the new stuff.

          I think (and others with me) AlphaFive will serve me better and cheaper.