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  • A4V4 vs HP 842C

    Print problem: Alpha4v4.0.2 used to print to the HP Deskjet 842C through parallel cable. I replaced my computer, and now it will not print Std. Mode, but appears OK in Typeset. Get "check driver" msg. as per other posts.
    The old machine was 200MH Pentium, W98SE, which was upgraded from W98, W95a, W3.1. New machine is Athelon 1.43GH, W98SE clean install. Only thing I can figure is that the high speed is doing it. Have tried various helps from here, incl the 660c Config, reinstall (updated) HP drivers, every combination in the driver params. (Spool, or not, timeouts etc.) Does anyone have the 842c Setup codes? Note that this is a dual connect USB/Parallel. I usually run A4 on Parallel to old Epson, works great.
    TIA,
    Brad Gaylord

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    RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

    The latest version of A4 (version 7) should support windows printers natively, and should be able to avoid these problems. It does this by implementing an external native windows 'print spooler' - since it calls directly into the windows printer API, it avoids all the problems associated with writing directly to the port.

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    • #3
      RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

      Thanks for the info, however, I would like to avoid changing to new version if possible. May be inevitable, but I like v4.
      Brad

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        RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

        Have you looked at the parallel port settings options in the BIOS setup? There's somthing niggling the back of my memory about that. Don't know if it will make any difference, but it can't hurt to try.

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          RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

          Thanks, will let you know.
          Brad

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            RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

            Sad to say, did not help. Was ECP. Changed to Normal, port did not work at all, Changed to BiDirectional, port worked but A4 still gave error as before, error after first page. I did not try EPP, as it needs "EPP Version".
            But, thanks for the idea. Someday it will be solved.

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              RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

              Hi Brad,

              Note that this is a dual connect USB/Parallel. I usually run A4 on Parallel to old Epson, works great.

              What do you mean by this statement? I don't understand what you mean by "Note that this is a dual connect USB/Parallel."

              Is the printer connected to LPT1?

              If so, go to the DOS prompt.

              At the c:\ prompt, type "dir" and press enter.

              Next type "dir>lpt1" and press enter. The printer should print what you saw on the screen when you typed "dir" and pressed enter.

              If the printer prints correctly, the problem is Alpha 4, if not, the problem is in the printer setup.

              You need to remember than one full page on the screen is only 1/2 a page of paper. You may need to change your path to to get at least four different screens to display when using the "dir" and enter command.

              If the printer is connected to the USB port, I wouldn't have any idea what you need to do. A suggestion would be to go to the HP web site and search all the FAQ's etc..

              Ron
              Alpha Anywhere v3.5
              Version 12.3, Build 2999
              MySql56 & DBF's

              Alpha 4, 5, Anywhere

              Ron Anusiewicz

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                RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                My normal setup is the parallel goes to Epson LX-800 and USB to the HP.
                I used to be able to move the parallel to HP and print there via LPT1. (Dual connect means the HP has both connects, you of course only use one at a time, and you name the printer 2 different names in "Printers")
                I tried the ver>, and that, from what you say, proves the problem is in A4. Other programs seem to care less whether HP is on USB or LPT1. As my original post indicates, the weird part is I could do this print to the HP when the computer was Pentium 200 MH, changed the machine to Athelon 1.43GH, and it blows out on the HP after one page. Still prints fine to old old LX800!

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                  RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                  Well, it could be that the HP properties are set up differently on your new computer than it was on the old computer.

                  How did you load the drivers for the HP on the new machine?

                  I got a hold of an HP Laserjet 4L and couldn't load the HP drivers that came with the printer. As the 4L is a DOS printer, I simply connected the printer to LPT1 with no windows drivers loaded. I could print all day from Alpha. Eventually, I loaded the default drivers that came with Windows 98se and it still works just fine.

                  Is the 842C a DOS printer or windows only?

                  Ron
                  Alpha Anywhere v3.5
                  Version 12.3, Build 2999
                  MySql56 & DBF's

                  Alpha 4, 5, Anywhere

                  Ron Anusiewicz

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                  • #10
                    RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                    Drivers are HP's, and it is a DOS compatible printer. Loaded from the HP Disk, both machines, updated from HP website, but will try your idea of printing from default type driver.
                    The spook in this is that the same printer used to work.
                    I still suspect that the clock speed has something to do with it.
                    Brad

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                    • #11
                      RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                      Brad,

                      I just need to clarify when I said, "Default Driver" I meant the driver for my printer than came on the Windows 98se disk, not the drivers supplied by HP.

                      I always use the print spooler and select the printer to start printing after the first page is spooled.

                      Ron
                      Alpha Anywhere v3.5
                      Version 12.3, Build 2999
                      MySql56 & DBF's

                      Alpha 4, 5, Anywhere

                      Ron Anusiewicz

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                      • #12
                        RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                        Ron, sorry to say did not work. The spook here is that the first page prints OK. What I suspect is that the A4 program, clocking at 1.43GH thinks that the printer went away, but, since I use spool, how could it know?
                        Brad

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                          RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                          Brad,

                          I re-read your first post. You stated that you cannot print in standard mode.

                          Could you be more specific as to exactly what is happening.

                          My experience has been the printer configuration for my old 660 works on my 1000 and I would venture that it would work on any HP inkjet.

                          The 660 was a DOS printer. The 1000 only prints DOS applications through Windows.

                          I print both standard and typeset reports.

                          I really don't think the speed of the computer has anything to do with your problem.

                          Admittly, I'm using a PIII 333mhz and Alpha 4V6.

                          Ron
                          Alpha Anywhere v3.5
                          Version 12.3, Build 2999
                          MySql56 & DBF's

                          Alpha 4, 5, Anywhere

                          Ron Anusiewicz

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                            RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                            Brad,

                            DOS programs will not access a printer via the USB port. All old DOS programs wrote directly to the LPT ports or Serial ports as that is the way they used to be connected. Windows cannot make a program redirect output from the LPT port to the USB port.

                            If you have to use your printer on the USB, then you would have to get A4v7 which has a specially written print driver to deal with Windows printers under the DOS box. This is not the windows version of Alpha but a newer DOS version with windows printing capabilities. I would, however, check over the other messages in the V7 message area to see what others think about printing through windows. I believe that there were some issues with Typeset mode.

                            Easy fix - $5.00 printer switch box so both printers are on the parallel port.

                            Doug

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                            • #15
                              RE: A4V4 vs HP 842C

                              Thanks, but was not the problem, A4 prints only the first page, through the parallel to the HP, then errors.

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