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Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

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  • Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

    Hi Guys .....

    Here's a conundrum ...

    I am using Ver: 12.4.4.4 Build 4346 (have no need for an upgrade as I am retired ... supposedly! ... and just do bits and peices for myself and some local commuity projects and can't justify the additional expense now!) running on Windows 7 (with latest updates).

    I have a development server I use to run a number of applications. Everything has been working fine until just recently. Now for no apparent reason both the desktop and server just stop. The only way to get them working again is to shut everything down and reboot. The desktop and server run for about 10 mins then frustratingly they stop again.

    The only changes to the system (apart from regular Windows updates) is that I have upgraded from MS Offfice 2007 to MS Office 2016.

    I have uninstalled Alpha (desktop and server) and cleanned the registry then resintalled Alpha and the same thing happens.

    Would be grateful for some light being shed on the issue .... is there a confilct with Office 2016 or someting more sinister? What else can I do to resolve the issue?

    Thanks
    John

    Currently Using Alpha ver 12.4.4.4. Build: 4346; Addins: 4889 against MySql databases

    Church Job Finder
    A Church of England Enabling Recruitment Partner "Right People, Right Place, Right Time"

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    Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

    Here's a quick update ....

    Have had to reboot the system again! So .... am just running Alpha Desktop and Server. Have not started any MS Office applications and so far Alpha has not stopped ..... it's been running for 30 mins.

    Is that indicative of a turf war with Office 2016 and Alpha?
    John

    Currently Using Alpha ver 12.4.4.4. Build: 4346; Addins: 4889 against MySql databases

    Church Job Finder
    A Church of England Enabling Recruitment Partner "Right People, Right Place, Right Time"

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    • #3
      Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

      Sounds like I do not want office 16
      Dave Mason
      [email protected]
      Skype is dave.mason46

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      • #4
        Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

        Originally posted by doula View Post
        Here's a quick update ....

        Have had to reboot the system again! So .... am just running Alpha Desktop and Server. Have not started any MS Office applications and so far Alpha has not stopped ..... it's been running for 30 mins.

        Is that indicative of a turf war with Office 2016 and Alpha?
        Spoke too soon .... with nonthing else running Alpha just stopped working. It really is a mystry.

        Would really welcome some thoughts on what is possibly happening or what to look for and where.

        Thanks
        John

        Currently Using Alpha ver 12.4.4.4. Build: 4346; Addins: 4889 against MySql databases

        Church Job Finder
        A Church of England Enabling Recruitment Partner "Right People, Right Place, Right Time"

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        • #5
          Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

          Just a guess but this may be your answer.

          https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...ication-Server
          Alpha 5 Version 11
          AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
          DBF's and MySql
          Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

          Ron Anusiewicz

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            Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

            Originally posted by Ronald Anusiewicz View Post
            Just a guess but this may be your answer.

            https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...ication-Server
            Thanks for the heads up Ron .... Does sound like this may be the issue ... I'll give it a try and report back.
            John

            Currently Using Alpha ver 12.4.4.4. Build: 4346; Addins: 4889 against MySql databases

            Church Job Finder
            A Church of England Enabling Recruitment Partner "Right People, Right Place, Right Time"

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              Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

              Originally posted by Ronald Anusiewicz View Post
              Just a guess but this may be your answer.

              https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...ication-Server
              Quite right Ron .... This was the problem! I followed the advice in the this thread:

              https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...ication-Server as Ron suggested and now have Alpha working again although ...

              ... it leaves the question as to what to do about installing future Windows updates if there is a possibility that a Windows update may interfer with Alpha.

              Thanks again for the pointer Ron.
              John

              Currently Using Alpha ver 12.4.4.4. Build: 4346; Addins: 4889 against MySql databases

              Church Job Finder
              A Church of England Enabling Recruitment Partner "Right People, Right Place, Right Time"

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              • #8
                Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

                Suggest most of the windows updates are needed. Maybe talk to alpha about keeping up with alpha side so they are not affected.
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

                  Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                  Suggest most of the windows updates are needed. Maybe talk to alpha about keeping up with alpha side so they are not affected.
                  Dave, Microsoft broke the core TCP/IP functionality in Windows with their June updates and caused problems for all server software including IIS. Alpha dedicated a tremendous amount of resources in an attempt to come up with any viable work-around, but it was well out of our hands. What are you suggesting that Alpha could have or should have done differently?

                  Lenny Forziati
                  Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                  Alpha Software Corporation

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                  • #10
                    Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

                    Hi Lenny, It has been over twenty years since I used windows anything for web or even Desktop beyond very simple stuff. I know we were privy to information then as a highly regarded company that let us know in advance of updates and such. Generally, we could test them and take care of potential problems ahead.

                    I just assumed alpha got those same heads up today?

                    Understand, PHP7 installs broke a whole lot of php apps when it came out as well, but only the ones where the programmer took shortcuts and/or was sloppy. Pretty well documented now and heads up were sent to most programmers.

                    Sorry if it appeared as a slight on alpha.
                    Dave Mason
                    [email protected]
                    Skype is dave.mason46

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                    • #11
                      Re: Desktop and Server keep stopping .... very annoying!

                      Also Microsoft trusts Linux in Azure( Azure Sphere). Asp.Net Core is for Linux today and so is SQL Server and you can install embedded Linux in Windows 10 if you want.
                      Also Alpha did have plans for Linux in Roadmap 2015 but has ended to asp.net plugin in IIS. All others are leaving and not recommend asp.net for anything new anymore and so does also Microsoft say.

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