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  • #16
    Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

    I don't believe that MySQL is free to distribute, if you are building and distributing applications.
    There is a thread about bundling MySQL with Alpha. The Community Edition is not usually for commercial use.
    See our Hybrid Option here;
    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

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    • #17
      Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

      MySQL, for anything any of us are going to use it for, is free. That includes if you use it to back end a commercial application that you sell for profit. It runs under the "GPL" license, and you only must pay for a commercial license if a) you alter the MySQL code in order to work with your commercial product, or b) you embed MySQL into your product making the source code non-accessible. We are not distributing or embedding MySQL, we are simply using it, and it is free under those conditions.
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      • #18
        Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

        Well; all that licensing stuff is confusing.

        I looked at Postgres for all of the reasons that Brad mentions in Post #3; and now and then I keep looking back at it. I have not encountered it very often so chose to not go that way.

        I considered MS-SQL because in my corporate life (where I am a Progress DBA), MS-SQL is the database of choice, it's the one that I frequently have to interface to (from Progress) and the applications that I support there are moving to MS-SQL. In my life as a small business owner who is also a MS partner, I should probably get certified on that. So choosing MS-SQL could have killed a few birds.

        I chose mySQL because it is the one that I see behind 99% of the web apps that I have ever looked at, it's the one that the guys working for me are using, and I can't believe that all of the freelancers in the world are paying for it. It's a little scary because it's owned by Oracle now who is just as corporate as Microsoft and subject to making the same corporate decisions.

        Is it any wonder my head hurts?

        So there's my answer for now; I chose MySQL because everyone else uses it and it sounds like that's the majority answer here too. And because it is different from what I am used to.

        Not the best answer I know.

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        • #19
          Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

          http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...-Move-Database
          See Post #8 Steve.
          Do you disagree or is this incorrect?
          See our Hybrid Option here;
          https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

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          • #20
            Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

            Hello Betty,

            MIcroSoft has a free version which is called MS SQL Express and you can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en....aspx?id=23650 and if you have 32 bits OS then use this file in that link: SQLEXPRWT_x86_ENU.exe
            Also you can find Books On Line for MS SQL in here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms130214.aspx
            If you are located in the USA then there are many developers that are using MS SQL , and you can get all the help you need from here: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...-US/categories

            Hope you can make sense of that.

            Regards,

            Doron

            The Farber Consulting Group, Inc.
            http://www.dfarber.com
            Blog: http://www.dfarber.com/computer-consulting-blog.aspx

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            • #21
              Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

              Doron,

              I know this is an old thread…but I am considering Xcase as my modeling software. Are you still using it? What is the support like from the developer? Anytime I have emailed them with a pre-sales question I never hear back from them. That makes me a little nervous to give them my money, but the product looks good.

              Thanks
              Greg

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              • #22
                Data modelling tool for database

                Hello Greg,

                I am using xCase for my database design and it is my right hand tool. I don't leave home without it. Right now it is version 10.1 and I was actually their beta tester when they moved from version 9 to 10. Don't have any problem with their tech support. I highly recommend it and can be found here: http://www.xCase.com

                Regards,

                Doron
                The Farber Consulting Group, Inc.

                Main Web Site: http://www.dFarber.com
                MS SQL Blog: http://www.dfarber.com/computer-consulting-blog.aspx
                Convert Ms Access to Web
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                • #23
                  Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                  Thanks Doran,

                  I appreciate such a glowing recommendation from a long time user!

                  Since they value your opinion, you may want to pass along my concern on their pre-sales support. I tried to download the trial and all worked fine….except….the download was the full version, so it was asking for a license key, etc. I emailed them 5 days ago regarding that and have not heard from them.

                  Previously I had another question regarding the differences in the versions they offer, etc…..after 4 emails that went unanswered, I finally called them.

                  Sounds like a great product…..but their pre-sales support (or lack thereof) may cost them sales from otherwise eager customers.

                  Thanks again!

                  Greg

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                  • #24
                    Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                    Hello Greg,

                    Use this email for the owner of xCase and tell him that Doron Farber sent you there.

                    Regards,

                    Doron
                    The Farber Consulting Group, Inc.

                    Main Web Site: http://www.dFarber.com
                    MS SQL Blog: http://www.dfarber.com/computer-consulting-blog.aspx
                    Convert Ms Access to Web
                    Custom Software Development
                    Alpha Five Development
                    No Interest Loans Application
                    MS SQL Remote DBA

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                    • #25
                      Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                      Greg,
                      Just take a look here. and then "top ten features" on left lower blue button.
                      https://www.webyog.com/#

                      Lot less money if it will help you.
                      Mostly, I prefer MySQL/Mariadb due to it being able to set it on any platform.
                      Dave Mason
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                      Skype is dave.mason46

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                      • #26
                        Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                        Thanks Doron…..will definitely do so!

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                        • #27
                          Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                          David,

                          Thanks for the link…will look into it more…price is certainly less!

                          THANKS!

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                          • #28
                            Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                            Hi David,

                            We are talking about data modelling tool to design your database. Are you using their tool for database design?

                            Regards,

                            Doron
                            The Farber Consulting Group, Inc.

                            Main Web Site: http://www.dFarber.com
                            MS SQL Blog: http://www.dfarber.com/computer-consulting-blog.aspx
                            Convert Ms Access to Web
                            Custom Software Development
                            Alpha Five Development
                            No Interest Loans Application
                            MS SQL Remote DBA

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                            • #29
                              Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                              Take a look where I sent him. You be the judge.

                              Edited: I use a different tool that was around many years before they were(XCASE). But it is different for me. I use Print Shop deluxe to design my databases and flow completely. Then put it into practice on alpha for dbf and/or sqlyog for MySQL.

                              Printshop and a calculator gives me relevance to growth per table. Not hard and very quick to about 100.00.
                              Last edited by DaveM; 01-08-2015, 02:20 PM.
                              Dave Mason
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                              Skype is dave.mason46

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                              • #30
                                Re: MS-SQL or MySQL?

                                I use Visual Paradigm Community Edition. Free.
                                Best one I have come across in years.
                                See our Hybrid Option here;
                                https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

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