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What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

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  • What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

    Hi Alpha,

    I started a thread about this nonsense 'subscriber benefits' and for some reason it has disappeared from the forum...

    I tried to search for it and received a URL reference to it for my pains (pic attached), but for some reason the forum engine could not locate the reference...

    The reason I wanted to update the thread was to confirm that as promised to one thread respondent, I had written to Richard (Alpha) and expressed my concerns about the direction their marketing activities were taking with regard to committed fully paid-up professional developers and how potentially divisive this departure could be for the community.

    Richard did provide a flattering reply but as yet no answers good or bad to my concerns.

    So, if this new thread remains in circulation I will keep you updated...

    Regards,

    Paul
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    Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

    deleted?

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      Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

      I'm sorry, how do you know this and why would Alpha do that without informing me of their reasons?

      Paul

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        Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

        Originally posted by pulsoft View Post
        I'm sorry, how do you know this and why would Alpha do that without informing me of their reasons?

        Paul
        Search for the topic on the board --> RESULT --> no find!.
        Is it gone I don't know perhaps moved or ...
        Reasons? Ask Alpha or the moderators I have no idea

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          Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

          Originally posted by bea2701 View Post
          Search for the topic on the board --> RESULT --> no find!.
          Is it gone I don't know perhaps moved or ...
          Reasons? Ask Alpha or the moderators I have no idea
          How do I ask the moderators?

          Paul

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          • #6
            Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

            Maybe because of the new peteconway law : read this.

            But this is not the only deleted message in the forum. There are many.

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            • #7
              Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

              I'm flattered... but I don't recall meeting the rules for being deleted, neither did the subject of this this thread. I hope you get to read this before it's removed.

              I don't recall.
              The post includes foul language
              The post contains quotes from private conversations without permission (on an obviously private matter)
              The post has an obvious destructive agenda
              The post contains a personal attack
              Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
              Albert Einstein, (attributed)
              US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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              • #8
                Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                Originally posted by pulsoft View Post
                How do I ask the moderators?

                Paul
                Paul,

                The thread was deleted by Alpha, not the moderators. A second, rather innocuous one was also deleted by Alpha.
                Peter
                AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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                https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                  Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                  Originally posted by kkfin View Post
                  Maybe because of the new peteconway law : read this.

                  But this is not the only deleted message in the forum. There are many.
                  If this "Steve Wood" moderator post about forum ethics has been applied why have they not had the courtesy to inform me of their decision and their reasons why?

                  Look, it is not my intention to upset Alpha moderators or the Alpha owners, or to sow disharmony within the Alpha community with this thread.
                  I posted here because I genuinely believe that Alpha have got this wrong and it seems at the moment that someone does not want to own up to it...

                  In essence a subscription is a more expensive way of paying for products and services that entitles you to full access to the latest of everything so long as you subscribe. If you opt to buy the complete product only and not subscribe then you should still have full access to what is available at the time of purchase plus in-line updates and bug fixes.
                  If you subsequently wish to avail yourself of new features and versions then you must purchase the upgrades and/or products.
                  To me it is as obvious as that. I understand feature packs which may be purchased separately but I do not understand subscriber benefits which may not!

                  Simples...

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                  • #10
                    Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                    I didn't delete that thread and in fact think it had merit and should not have been deleted. We (moderators) quickly wrote those rules to deal with a different situation, a specific user (now expelled) that was being very foul -- and any similar situation that might come up in the future.
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                      Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                      Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
                      I didn't delete that thread and in fact think it had merit and should not have been deleted. We (moderators) quickly wrote those rules to deal with a different situation, a specific user (now expelled) that was being very foul -- and any similar situation that might come up in the future.
                      Thanks for the heads up Steve.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                        Paul,

                        With respect, I think your attitude is being confused with your sentiment. I do not agree with how you are voicing your opinion about the new sales approach from Alpha on this forum. However, I do agree with you that there is an element of ambiguity, as to whether non subscribers will be allowed to purchase individual Feature Packs or not.

                        It would be helpful I'm sure, to you and several others, if this point can be clarified. I would suggest you ask the sales department direct rather than through the forum. It is here to be used for questions and help about the product, not I suggest, Alpha's approach to sales and marketing.
                        Regards
                        Keith Hubert
                        Alpha Guild Member
                        London.
                        KHDB Management Systems
                        Skype = keith.hubert


                        For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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                          Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                          Originally posted by Keith Hubert View Post
                          Paul,

                          With respect, I think your attitude is being confused with your sentiment. I do not agree with how you are voicing your opinion about the new sales approach from Alpha on this forum. However, I do agree with you that there is an element of ambiguity, as to whether non subscribers will be allowed to purchase individual Feature Packs or not.

                          It would be helpful I'm sure, to you and several others, if this point can be clarified. I would suggest you ask the sales department direct rather than through the forum. It is here to be used for questions and help about the product, not I suggest, Alpha's approach to sales and marketing.
                          With even more respect to you Keith, you really should read the whole thread and get your facts right...

                          Paul

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                            Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                            Could somebody please tell me exactly how to get my "subscriber benefits?"
                            (It seems as if email inquiries to Alpha Sales typically go unanswered.)

                            I get the most recent updates, but that's what we all download, right? Everyone who downloads build 2627-3913 - Released - 22-Apr-2012 -10:10 selects the same (beta) file to install. (Which supposedly has special features for subscribers as indicated at bottom of this post.) So how do special featuers get activated only for subscribers? ~I certainly don't think I have the ability to turn on extra a5 functionality.

                            I'm sad to think this way: But the present subscription doesn't run out until this October anyways, and I don't see the point of having just renewed in advance. (Since now I don't even think I'm getting what I should be getting in the first place)..... I just looked back through all my emails from Alpha. ~Having never received any links or registration codes for special "subscriber benefits", this whole subscription thing is beginning to look like "smoke & mirrors" from my perspective.

                            I certainly shouldn't need to be making phone calls to receive/confirm these extra "subscriber benefits", right?

                            M50 - Grid/Dialog - Action Javascript - Message Box Action - Advanced Options (Subscriber Benefit)
                            D46 - Dialog - Geocoding Data when Records are Saved (Subscriber Benefit)
                            D47 - Dialog - Server Side Events For CRUD Operations (Subscriber Benefit)
                            D49 - Dialog - Displaying a Fade Out Message to Confirm that Record was Saved (Subscriber Benefit)


                            So exactly where are they, and how do they get turned on? At the very least, I should have usage of them until at least October, right? IMHO, (putting it nicely) Alpha has certainly "put the cart in front of the horse on this one!"
                            Last edited by SNusa; 04-23-2012, 01:35 PM.
                            Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
                            It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
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                              Re: What happened to my "Clarity Required" thread?

                              Robert,

                              There should have been one email sent to you with a serial number to enter......after that, any additional subscriber benefits should be accessible..... I look at as if they are bonus properties or methods.

                              J

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