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    #31
    Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

    Originally posted by DaveM View Post
    I am going to leave that one alone.
    You're killing me Dave.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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      #32
      Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

      THIS is the message that Alpha needs to get out to the marketplace and I hope Dan is featured heavily in all future advertising and marketing efforts by AS!

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        #33
        Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

        Peter,

        I read what was written. No need to break that one down. He could be a boon for alpha!
        Last edited by DaveM; 06-26-2013, 11:27 PM.
        Dave Mason
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          #34
          Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

          Dave,

          As you say, Mr. Bricklin is undoubtedly a great boon for Alpha. Decades of experience and knowledge with major achievements under his belt. His blog on v12 mobile is compelling. Frankly I am still excited that Alpha has a new team on advisers and investors. New blood, new insight, vast business & programming experience. Good deal!
          Peter
          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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            #35
            Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

            I too am excited and ... I will be doubly-excited when I see some non-subscription pricing! :)

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              #36
              Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

              Originally posted by Richard Rabins View Post
              It represents an enormous amount of work on the part of our development team and boasts major improvements across the board for desktop and web application development.
              Then why is it, that Alpha seems to have such a hard time communicating this "enormous amount of work" (I believe you!) to its customers? Because that's where Alpha's real achilles heel lies if you ask me: alpha is weak in its customer communications to such an extent they are in jeopardy to lose customers just over not being able to communicate.
              For instance: why is it, that this "enormous amount of work.....for desktop and web...." seems to have been completely unnoticed by almost anyone on this board? Read this thread from top to bottom again: well known Alpha developers don't seem to have a clue about what v12 adds to the desktop development environment and most say: "very little or nothing"! And you Richard can't think of anything else to say than "an enormous amount of work". WHAT WORK? What exactly had been done? Why is there no overview, no specs as to what exactly HAS been done? How could any of your customers possibly know if there is no list of added features in some way?


              Originally posted by Richard Rabins View Post
              ...When we talk about mobile applications...
              We were NOT. We were talking about desktop applications and web applications.

              Originally posted by Richard Rabins View Post
              ...Most of what we've added to the UX Component can be applied to your existing desktop and web apps...
              These are exactly the type of remarks we can do without as developers! "...Most of..." automatically pops-up the question: "Huh? Not all? So, if not all, then what not?". As you can see, this remark did not answer any question but rather invoked new ones since it seems that not all you added to the UX Component can be applied to the existing desktop. What can't? What can?

              You ain't getting there with remarks like "...lightning fast performance...". This type of advertising language is not objectively measurable. It really says nothing. FACTS. That's what counts. That's what I want to read about. I am not interested in the stories mr Bricklin has to tell. My whole attic is full of such stories of my own. I lost him halfway reading. I want FACTS to make my own future story rather than to ponder with someone else's story of the past. In application development there is no past. There is only the future and each and everyone of us needs to prove himself again in the future by creating new apps that fit the market.

              The future starts today. And I still do not have a list of what v12 brings what v11 did not have for desktop, wcd, or web.

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                #37
                Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

                Originally posted by mronck View Post
                Then why is it, that Alpha seems to have such a hard time communicating this "enormous amount of work" (I believe you!) to its customers? Because that's where Alpha's real achilles heel lies if you ask me: alpha is weak in its customer communications to such an extent they are in jeopardy to lose customers just over not being able to communicate.
                For instance: why is it, that this "enormous amount of work.....for desktop and web...." seems to have been completely unnoticed by almost anyone on this board? Read this thread from top to bottom again: well known Alpha developers don't seem to have a clue about what v12 adds to the desktop development environment and most say: "very little or nothing"! And you Richard can't think of anything else to say than "an enormous amount of work". WHAT WORK? What exactly had been done? Why is there no overview, no specs as to what exactly HAS been done? How could any of your customers possibly know if there is no list of added features in some way?



                We were NOT. We were talking about desktop applications and web applications.


                These are exactly the type of remarks we can do without as developers! "...Most of..." automatically pops-up the question: "Huh? Not all? So, if not all, then what not?". As you can see, this remark did not answer any question but rather invoked new ones since it seems that not all you added to the UX Component can be applied to the existing desktop. What can't? What can?

                You ain't getting there with remarks like "...lightning fast performance...". This type of advertising language is not objectively measurable. It really says nothing. FACTS. That's what counts. That's what I want to read about. I am not interested in the stories mr Bricklin has to tell. My whole attic is full of such stories of my own. I lost him halfway reading. I want FACTS to make my own future story rather than to ponder with someone else's story of the past. In application development there is no past. There is only the future and each and everyone of us needs to prove himself again in the future by creating new apps that fit the market.

                The future starts today. And I still do not have a list of what v12 brings what v11 did not have for desktop, wcd, or web.
                "Dutchies never give up"

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                  #38
                  Re: v12. I am sure it's me. BUT....

                  Yeah, well, I think you are right with your statement: and I probably should. This is not going to help, I know that. So I will give it a rest. Time to listen to a fellow countryman. We'll see what the future brings, and in the meantime I have work to do.... :-) Thank you for your mildly ironic statement Eric, it is appreciated!

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