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Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

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  • #16
    Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

    Dropping xbasic for alpha would be or is a very big undertaking. I really do not know anything that is done with xbasic that cannot be done with js, but is a huge difference in learning.

    Advantages to JS:
    one can interact with PHP and others more easily.
    all web stuff, even if used on desktop

    When I use PHP, there is almost always js on the front side that is used for anything needed to setup the forms, do some math, etc.
    Add css to this and you can make a very nice looking app.
    Reporting which is the same as books in some can be wildly more diverse and complete. These can also be done in different ways depending on platforms or none.

    Imagine a report that can be written that becomes and action game? It can!!

    Alpha is heading there. Just not sure they know it yet.

    Going further with edit:
    My humble opinion is that most websites today are built on a CMS solution like Joomla and Wordpress. What are they built on? PHP and MySQL as a base, then javascript and CSS. That does not meant to say that other is not used, but generally not.
    One can build a super nice website based on cms in very short order and it can sit on a Linux or windows server. I have 6 of my own on Linux and 2 on windows servers. The only difference I can see is speed, but that may be a choice of hosts.

    Where would I like to see alpha in the future?
    1. able to sit on either Linux or Windows servers
    2. No xbasic on the web (Has to be for Linux - I think)
    3. Carry the ease of use and deployment they currently have with the diversity they currently exhibit with desktop and web.
    4. Integration with the strong CMS front ends that are available now.
    5. More that I will keep quite about for now.
    I believe all of the above is coming in time and would be game changers for the whole web world including Lans.
    Last edited by DaveM; 01-05-2015, 01:07 PM.
    Dave Mason
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    • #17
      Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

      Dave,
      Xbasic won't go away neither PHP,ASP etc. The change is Alpha plans in middle / long term to move all xbasic to JS functions. As Selwyn mentioned Xbasic will be available for all users.

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      • #18
        Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

        Eric,
        I am thinking of a longer term than that. A lot is in hope too.
        I use xbasic as much as most and more than a lot of people, but consider it an anchor on the web. Moving to js functions is a great first step. The alpha users are a large group and very much into xbasic and it will take a lot of time to move them from xbasic to js functions. Some will Not wish to move. Others will embrace it. Others will be very slow to move over.
        Selwyn(and alpha) understands that. They were taught well when moving from a3 to a4 to a5.

        To the user base, Learning is moving and standing still is rotting.
        Dave Mason
        [email protected]
        Skype is dave.mason46

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        • #19
          Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

          I think you better watch the video for the Alpha Roadmap:

          1. Moveing Xbasic to Serverside Script JS that will be possible
          2. Alpha will translate the Xbasic to JS functions
          3. Desktop not sure, while most Desktops as Windows based
          4. I see Alpha more as LOB and not As CMS, as Node is on board it's a peace of cake the hook any JS based MS
          5. Yeah do that! --->

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          • #20
            Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

            So, being a newbie, I have no knowledge of "the road map". What kind of time frame are we talking about concerning a possible abandonment of Xbasic? I have rudimentary skills in VB, so I was looking forward to diving into Xbasic. Just going through the demo exercises, it was apparent that JS would be a good thing to learn, so I am going to work on that. You guys have me worried that i am trying to gain traction on shifting sands.

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            • #21
              Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

              Originally posted by MEI152 View Post
              So, being a newbie, I have no knowledge of "the road map". What kind of time frame are we talking about concerning a possible abandonment of Xbasic? I have rudimentary skills in VB, so I was looking forward to diving into Xbasic. Just going through the demo exercises, it was apparent that JS would be a good thing to learn, so I am going to work on that. You guys have me worried that i am trying to gain traction on shifting sands.
              Chris,

              Not to worry. Xbasic will be with Alpha either, for a long time to come, or forever, meaning as long as Alpha exists - and Alpha IS a survivor. But it is good to learn JavaScript as well. JS is THE browser language. But you can learn both xbasic and JS on an as-need basis as you develop your app or apps.
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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              • #22
                Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

                Chris,
                As Peter said.
                and
                Remember that as the sands shift in alpha, the shift is always in small movements and you will be able to keep up.

                You are right to learn both and as Peter said, do it as you need it for both.
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                • #23
                  Re: Alpha Anywhere Vs Qt Project

                  Hello Chris,

                  I moved from Visual FoxPro to Alpha Five and never looked back. You may check this article to get you the idea of the road I took until I found Alpha Five. You may look at this video as for No Interest Loan Application to see what you can do with Alpha Five as for an accounting application. We also developed an application for Avis Car Rental Contract Manager and it works like a charm with 30 different locations.

                  Regards,

                  Doron
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                  Last edited by DoronF; 01-07-2015, 11:06 AM.

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