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Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

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  • Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

    I'm bombarded with marketing emails from Alpha over the years as I purchased a desktop version many, many years ago but didn't take it anywhere. So, this week I've perused the Alpha site reading up on what products/versions are available, thinking I might give it another go.

    From memory, one of the issues from years ago is that I couldn't deploy a desktop application on a computer in which I didn't have administrator rights. I'm not deploying or writing applications for profit, merely personal use. As I receive the marketing emails with forever reducing prices, I'm wondering if Alpha software is suitable for personal use.

    I want to write personal applications, convert some already written in other languages, to be all browser interface based. I'm assuming these could all be run locally on a single PC, but a web browser being the front-end interface. Can such an application be transferred/installed to another computer to be run locally. Will I need administrator rights to achieve this? (The backend data residing locally, not networked or internet connected)
    Steve
    Alphafive V10

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    Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

    You can run your app in localhost from the developer. I'm thinking the license says you are allowed to deploy on two machines simultaneously (but I've never read the license). If you create a WCD app (web components on the desktop) you can run the app straight from the developer like any desktop app w/o the need for a browser. Otherwise you would have to buy a WAS license. Sounds like that is what you don't want.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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      Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

      If you are not going to put your apps on the internet, you can develop as a desktop and share to other computers in your network using the runtime. They would not show up in the browser though.
      You will experience a few issues with needing administrator to install and sometimes other stuff will pop up, but they are not usually deal breakers.
      Going desktop will be faster to develop and will run faster in my opinion.
      Dave Mason
      dave@aldadesktop.com
      Skype is dave.mason46

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        Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

        I have upgraded to V11. I was running V9 it seems forever, for my personal use. It has, and is serving me well. The transition from V9 to V11 is seamless.
        The best feature of V9 and newer is the ability to use multiple back end formats. Mysql, Accses, etc. Personally the built in db# suits me fine. I don't think I will exceed
        2 billion records. Although you must update indexes and pack tables for efficiency. (Even small tables) This can be programmed within the application.

        I am talking like a salesman... Hey! Would you like to buy my V9? No reasonable off will be refused.

        If you are interested. Make an offer in US$. I will contact my salesman to ensure it is all in the up and up.

        John Glasgow, Canada.

        Email jokanata@yahoo.com
        Last edited by johnnhoj; 08-04-2015, 04:08 AM. Reason: Added information

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          Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

          Originally posted by Steve T View Post
          Is Alpha overkill
          I'm bombarded with marketing emails from Alpha over the years as I purchased a desktop version many, many years ago but didn't take it anywhere. So, this week I've perused the Alpha site reading up on what products/versions are available, thinking I might give it another go.

          From memory, one of the issues from years ago is that I couldn't deploy a desktop application on a computer in which I didn't have administrator rights. I'm not deploying or writing applications for profit, merely personal use. As I receive the marketing emails with forever reducing prices, I'm wondering if Alpha software is suitable for personal use.

          I want to write personal applications, convert some already written in other languages, to be all browser interface based. I'm assuming these could all be run locally on a single PC, but a web browser being the front-end interface. Can such an application be transferred/installed to another computer to be run locally. Will I need administrator rights to achieve this? (The backend data residing locally, not networked or internet connected)
          Yes, They used to offer some pretty good deals on the other program versions. However at the time I really wasn't in need for it. My contact with the program was via another person tracking their sales. Things changed, and I decided to see about actually purchasing it for myself. The way it's priced now pretty much puts it out of my reach.

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            Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

            Originally posted by johnnhoj View Post
            I have upgraded to V11. I was running V9 it seems forever, for my personal use. It has, and is serving me well. The transition from V9 to V11 is seamless.
            The best feature of V9 and newer is the ability to use multiple back end formats. Mysql, Accses, etc. Personally the built in db# suits me fine. I don't think I will exceed
            2 billion records. Although you must update indexes and pack tables for efficiency. (Even small tables) This can be programmed within the application.

            I am talking like a salesman... Hey! Would you like to buy my V9? No reasonable off will be refused.

            If you are interested. Make an offer in US$. I will contact my salesman to ensure it is all in the up and up.

            John Glasgow, Canada.

            Email jokanata@yahoo.com
            Since you had the program registered for your system , is that legal?
            Last edited by glen65x; 08-17-2015, 09:53 PM.

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              Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

              If Alpha were to approve it, then it is legal.
              Dave Mason
              dave@aldadesktop.com
              Skype is dave.mason46

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                Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

                I have done web development in Alpha and other platforms. It all comes with a certain amount of overhead that in my opinion makes it overkill for any personal use databases. If want to develop something for person use and don't need or can do without access from mobile devices I think the Alpha Desktop development is the way to go.
                Version 10.5 was the last to see any major improvements on that front. In the past version 11 was still available on there website at a significantly lower price. I don't see it listed but maybe if you give them a call.

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                  Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

                  Originally posted by pboomwork View Post
                  I have done web development in Alpha and other platforms. It all comes with a certain amount of overhead that in my opinion makes it overkill for any personal use databases. If want to develop something for person use and don't need or can do without access from mobile devices I think the Alpha Desktop development is the way to go.
                  Yes, I just want to make something for the desktop.

                  Version 10.5 was the last to see any major improvements on that front. In the past version 11 was still available on there website at a significantly lower price. I don't see it listed but maybe if you give them a call.
                  Thanks for the suggestion, I'll contact them. Even if the person selling his copy of Version 9 were to still have it, I read something saying it won't work with Win 7. So I would have to have to dig up an XP system to even run it.

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                    Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

                    I've been using Version 9 with Windows 7 for a few years. Works just fine.

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                      Re: Personal Use Only - Is Alpha overkill

                      Originally posted by Bob Tomas View Post
                      I've been using Version 9 with Windows 7 for a few years. Works just fine.
                      Good deal, I may contact the person to see if he still has the software.

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