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    Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

    Now that the Access 2013 public beta is available (free download) I wonder if any current or prior Access developers who have switched to Alpha Five are ready to switch back to the new Access?

    bob
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    #2
    Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

    Not a chance. For that matter, I still prefer Access 2007.

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      #3
      Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

      I didn't even like Access 2007 (too 'dumbed down'), and reverted back to Access 2002 and have stayed with it. In reviewing the info about Access 2013, the infor seems pretty sketchy, and no info about what it would all cost. My first impression in reviewing the info on MS site is that it will not have anywhere near the tools that Alpha is providing for web apps.... but I could be wrong, I didn't study on it for very long. My instinct is to not even go there..... do NOT need another learning curve expenditure of time. I may have encountered some issues with Alpha, but they have always been very responsive in dealing with those issues. I can't even imagine that same type of support and responsiveness from Microsoft.
      Carol King
      Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
      http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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        #4
        Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

        Access... and now Sharepoint... and very poor support... and no fixes for months and months... no thanks. Still have to work in it for some projects... but never anything new again.
        Last edited by Davidk; 07-19-2012, 04:36 PM.

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          #5
          Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

          ?? What does this thread have to do with Alpha Five v11 Web/Browser Applications ??

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            #6
            Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

            Not a chance in hell! as long as they tie it to SharePoint and force you to use macros, so no VBA no JavaScript... it is a mess . Thank goodness for Alpha Five I say!

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              #7
              Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

              Jaime - I'm not sure where else this discussion would be, but I, for one, am very interested in learning that I've made the right choice to stick with Alpha by hearing what other say about their review of Access 2013.
              Carol King
              Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
              http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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                #8
                Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                Originally posted by kiwibruce View Post
                Not a chance in hell!
                Yah, you are correct. Computers aren't used there.
                TYVM :) kenn

                Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                  Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                  Originally posted by WindForce View Post
                  ?? What does this thread have to do with Alpha Five v11 Web/Browser Applications ??
                  I understand your point but in short, it has everything to do with this forum, just not a specific development issue.
                  TYVM :) kenn

                  Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                    Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                    Originally posted by forskare View Post
                    I understand your point but in short, it has everything to do with this forum, just not a specific development issue.
                    Agreed, as one of the many, many Access refugees that are now building in Alpha Five it is a fair question and since we have come to Alpha to build web apps it is a perfect place for it to be.

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                      #11
                      Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                      I agree whole heartily with Wendy, as intriguing as it is to take a peek at it, I really don't have the time so even though I used Access 2002, nope. Not for me. If for no other reason, and there are plenty of other reasons, They don't have a message board anywhere close to this one. And that, my friends, I cannot put a value on.
                      TYVM :) kenn

                      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                        #12
                        Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                        However, you can't dismiss Access out of hand. It's hated by hundreds of IT departments because it put power into the hands of the user and took it away from mean, short-tempered, snarky and self-righteous IT personnel.
                        The fights I've had with corporate IT while developing apps that users actually want and can actually use in a 10th of the time they estimated and at a fraction of the cost. It was the same in every company... IT telling me how Access was a toy and would never last. Idiots... they never saw what heroes they could have been... and they all wound up supporting Access anyway... heehee.
                        I've lived off Access since version 1... it brought me a very good living. But when Microsoft put out a 2003 runtime and didn't tell us until months later there was a time bomb in it... and then wouldn't fix it for almost a year... that was it. And the web is going to kill it anyway... not to mention "the Ribbon". So... farewell... thank you... it's Alpha time.

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                          #13
                          Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                          No,way. However, don't use A5 as a DB. Just love the Xbasic language
                          Marcel

                          I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
                          ---- Confusius ----

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                            #14
                            Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                            Carol and Ken: there is a general forum here just for those issues, doesn't have to be here in v11.
                            Also, i didn't like something in the phrasing or the tone. I hope and am pretty sure Bob didn't mean to come here, an Alpha forum, to try to convince people to go back to Access, but the way the words were put sounds just like that...

                            Jaime

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                              #15
                              Re: Access 2013 public beta is now available - anyone ready to switch back?

                              Originally posted by Davidk View Post
                              However, you can't dismiss Access out of hand. ...... I've lived off Access since version 1... it brought me a very good living. But when Microsoft put out a 2003 runtime and didn't tell us until months later there was a time bomb in it... and then wouldn't fix it for almost a year... that was it.
                              I completely agree with David about how Access has provided a good living.... Despite IT people always telling me it wouldn't work and snubbing their noses at it, I have a few hundred clients using it to run their job costing and accounting and receive hardly get any tech support calls. I was able to design a very stable application with Access. I did start hating having to deal with Access Runtime for deployment, etc., and then things became an install nightmare with Windows 7, so I have moved most of my customers to a remote desktop where we host the Access app and their data for them. BUT, I know the web is the future, and there are wonderful new features I can provide via the web and Alpha is providing an outstanding tool for getting there. FAR better than anything I've seen from Microsoft, and so much more personalized in support.
                              Carol King
                              Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
                              http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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