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    a5 Process Name

    Is there a way to set the process name of a5 when it loads into memory?

    I developed a couple of interfaces that are separate applications. Unfortunately, I cannot tell them apart in the windows process list as they both come up as "a5" processes.

    I had an issue today when one of my interfaces was not loaded. Has anyone loaded their app with a name other than "a5" in the windows process list?

    I'm wanting to identify the instances of a5 in memory by the application they are running.
    Creating Healthcare Work-Flow Solutions Since 2005

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    Re: a5 Process Name

    There is a way to rename the alpha exe file. This might cause it to appear in the process list with the new name. There is a branding tool you can purchase from alpha that renames the exe and gets rid of all the alpha terms from mesaage boxes and inbuilt defaults. Check with the Alpha sales if this tool, when applied, has that impact for you.
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      #3
      Re: a5 Process Name

      Omar, if these are separate applications and use different application names, you can set the window title in the application autoexec (A5.window_title = "Application Name") and that name is what will show up when you when you do a sys_id_enum() to look at the existing Windows processes.
      Finian

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        #4
        Re: a5 Process Name

        Thanks guys! Albiet good suggestions, I don't think I'll be able to do what I want in the process name. I do like the sys_id_enum() and I'm thinking about coding something to look for the app name in both apps. So for example if app a is loaded and b is not, then app a would either start the other app or send an alert. This would also be coded in app b to check on app a. Thanks again!
        Creating Healthcare Work-Flow Solutions Since 2005

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          Re: a5 Process Name

          If you change the name of the Alpha5.exe file, the process name will match the new name. Of course, you don't want to have all processes with the new name so make a copy then change the name and modify any icon definitions as desired. HOWEVER, you also need to copy and rename the two files on either side of the Alpha5.exe - Alpha5.errors and Alpha5.exe.manifest.

          This is standard procedure for me - and I do it for the same reason you do. See attached screenshot that shows a section of my Windows Explorer screen with the original and two sets of renamed files boxed in red.

          (You do use shortcut icons that start by running Alpha5.exe and then loading the appropriate application, right!? Do NOT use an icon that just opens an .adb file using the default program.)

          For those that haven't figured this out yet, sometimes A5 crashes and you can't restart your application but you also can't see the icon for the original anymore. You also can't see it in the Task Manager under the Applications tab. But if you select the Processes tab you will see the crashed copy of Alpha5.exe still running. If you can figure out which one it is, you can kill the process without shutting down your computer or killing other A5 processes. For those of us that often have multiple applications running, having 3 processes all called "Alpha5.exe" is a problem.
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          Last edited by CALocklin; 08-23-2012, 09:39 AM.

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            #6
            Re: a5 Process Name

            This works well with Developer. Couldn't get it to work in the runtime; complained of not being able to find zlib1.dll

            ..Also, there isn't a manifest with the runtime
            Creating Healthcare Work-Flow Solutions Since 2005

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              Re: a5 Process Name

              Oh my goodness Alpha Alpha Five. so I have to install the developer on the clients machine

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                Re: a5 Process Name

                Originally posted by doorscomputers View Post
                Oh my goodness Alpha Alpha Five. so I have to install the developer on the clients machine
                No. You have to test things for yourself. I was taught a long, long time ago that you should never believe anything until you've verified it for yourself and this philosophy has served me well.

                So, I took the last 45 minutes of my time and tested things again for myself then wrote this response. This time I actually did it in A5v10Runtime since most of the ones I've changed in the past were in the full version of A5v8.

                I removed the existing copy of A5v10 Runtime, removed the registry, and re-installed the runtime. This time I installed it to the default folder just in case that makes a difference. (I normally install all A5 programs under D:\A5_Progs and now I'll have to take more time to remove the runtime again and put it back where I want it.) Then I changed the name from Alpha5.exe to Junk_for_testing.exe and, just to see what would happen, deleted the .errors file and the .manifest file. Everything I tested worked fine - even without the .errors and .manifest file. I haven no idea why I needed to copy those files to the new name in the full version of v8. Maybe I was mistaken; maybe it's something that I didn't test for this time; maybe v10 is different than v8?

                Also, both the zlib1.dll file and the .manifest file were in the folder immediately after installaion and there was no warning about the zlib1 file. Maybe there's a problem with Omar's install file.

                My recommendation, which holds true for anything you read on any forum (or in any textbook for that matter), is to take the info given and verify it for yourself. Your situation may be different. Maybe the OS makes a difference; maybe it makes a difference whether you installed it in Program Files or in the D: drive; maybe the install file you have is installing different files for some reason (where's Omar's zlib1.dll file? And, if it was missing, couldn't he just copy it in from the full version?); maybe there's something you did in your app that the other developer never does so the other developer would never see the problem; maybe in this case it only works when the full version is also installed on the same system (that's one thing I haven't tested in any current versions); maybe the guy presenting the info was just wrong.

                Can I say absolutely, positively, indubitably, and without any question that the same thing I did to rename the Alpha5.exe file will work for you? No. But on the other hand, I've had enough succes with it that I'd be willing to bet a few bucks that I could make it work for you.

                Sorry if I sound angry but, yes, I'm in a bad mood today because I'm frustrated with the amount of time I've been wasting at some meetings lately proving that I'm right because of people who want to jump to conclusions without checking the facts. (And, no, I'm not talking about politics. And, no, I'm not always right. But when people challenge me in front of a group of people without having any facts and don't want to listen to my facts even though I have the facts to prove my case, it ticks me off a bit.)
                Last edited by CALocklin; 10-07-2012, 12:37 PM.

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                  And, no, I'm not talking about politics. And, no, I'm not always right. But when people challenge me in front of a group of people without having any facts and don't want to listen to my facts even though I have the facts to prove my case, it ticks me off a bit
                  You can't beat something where the mind is already made up! Been there and know what you mean.
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                    Re: a5 Process Name

                    Sorry if I sound angry but, yes, I'm in a bad mood today because I'm frustrated with the amount of time I've been wasting at some meetings lately proving that I'm right because of people who want to jump to conclusions without checking the facts
                    To pour some oil on the flames (it's getting close to Bonfire Night in the UK), I have a teacup with the comment "I'm not bossy, I just have better ideas!" on it.
                    Listen to CAL. This is bread and butter stuff and I know that it works.
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