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    Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

    I am using the Alphabet Buttons Search supercontrol on several forms using a browse. I use them to shorten the list of items to select from for the user. For the most part they work. However, when using the Show All button at the end it does not always do that - Show all records. Sometimes it keeps the last list and sometime it shows the last record. When showing the last record it is just that the single last record - no scrolling to the top of the list. I have drepped the supercontrol and started again thinking I may have mucked things up but no success.

    I am wondering if this behavior is limited to my application or has been experienced by others. If others have found it, was there a workaround?

    Update: When I watch the events on Trace Window it does not appear the 'Show All' is event is firing when data has been filtered to a particular list. If I go to a letter that has no records, then click 'Show All' it does fire.

    I may have to rethink this design - whats crazy is on some forms it works just fine. I even start the from from scratch and same issue. Hmmmmm....
    Last edited by jkwrpc; 09-13-2012, 12:22 PM. Reason: More information
    Regards,

    John W.
    www.CustomReportWriters.net

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    Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

    Okay a bit more info, the issue seems to be that filter reads from its current recno position to the end of the table. Which means if there is no records found the position is at 0. It appears the the 'Show All' records button is not working as needed to repoint the record to recno 0 if it is already pointing at a record. For example assume there are 5 records in a table and you have data filtered on the letter B and that points to record number 3. When you then push 'Show All' , only the records from recno 3 and greater will show. In this example 3,4,5 will be displayed and records 1 and 2 do not.

    Again the crazy thing is this does not appear to be consistent. I have one form where it works as expected and several where this issue appears. It does not seem to matter whether its a set or single table. A bug perhaps or is this the way it should be filtering?
    Regards,

    John W.
    www.CustomReportWriters.net

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      #3
      Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

      I was forced to add a button "New Search" to the form that would show all records and go to recno 1. Not ideal but it works, I would be happier in this situation if I could hide the "Show All" button on the tool bar but that is not possible. Seems like a 'bug' to me.
      Regards,

      John W.
      www.CustomReportWriters.net

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        Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

        John,
        I am using the Alphabet Supercontrol in several forms and also noticed what you call odd behavior.
        As far as I can see, after pressing "Show All", all records become available but the previously selected letter button stays focussed until you press Page Up, Page down or move the vertical slider to a certain position. So by only pressing "Show All" the record pointer stays where it was until further action is taken.
        I found I needed a slight change in mind set to understand what is going on. I want to search records but that is done by positioning to a limited group of records. So, technically it is not a search but presentation of a logically organized group of records.
        Jo Hulsen
        Dommel Valley Solutions
        The Netherlands

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          Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

          Jo - Thanks for the post. Somehow it makes me feel better that I am not alone in seeing this behavior in the control. To my way of thinking it would have been better to have left the 'Show All' off of the Supercontrol if in fact it does not show all the records in the underlying data. I am sure most users are like me, will look at it and think this will show me all the records again; which it does not do. This in turn will cause confusion which I need to avoid.
          Regards,

          John W.
          www.CustomReportWriters.net

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            Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

            I modified my solution building on a suggestion offered by Ted Giles. I placed another button at the end of the 'alphabet button search' bar. I gave it a title of "Clear Selection' and set the flyover properties to match the button search bar's hover properties. Its close enough to the look most users should not realize its a work around. Hopefully 'Clear Selection' should be understood by most users.

            Still I think have 'Show All' as part of the button bar adds unnecessary confusion since in fact it does not show all.
            Regards,

            John W.
            www.CustomReportWriters.net

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              Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

              Still I think have 'Show All' as part of the button bar adds unnecessary confusion since in fact it does not show all.
              That's what the wishlist area is for. Maybe you want it to say Release current filter, maybe you want it to fetch the first record (though show all doesn't do that anywhere else).

              Up to you what you wish for.
              There can be only one.

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                Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

                Hi John..

                I had exactly the same confusion: I also couldn't see the point of a show all button that didn't show all:

                http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...970#post614970

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                  #9
                  Re: Alphabet Buttons Search Supercontrol - Odd Behavior

                  The V8 version of Alpha Buttons - hand made to suit - using a multi state button work OK.
                  The bar looks no different to the ActiveX button set but does whatever you need.
                  Alphabuttons.JPG
                  See our Hybrid Option here;
                  https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                  Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                  You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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