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    Post 10.5 patch situation

    I updated my build level last week on two machines and I've started experiencing several peculiarities. There are certain programs that no longer function correctly on the latest build, but still work fine on the machines that have not been updated.

    I'm wondering if there is any method of getting my hands on the older builds so I can do a reload of them. I've tried to access Alpha's website to check, but they seem to be down due to the storm I guess.

    Thanks in advance for any help and/or advice.

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    I am not understanding the problem of peculiarities. As long as you let it install .net and the c++ runtime(if going from version 10 to 10.5), there should be no problems. I didn't anyhow, and mine was done some time ago.

    You got to your update from the main startup of 10.5 and you should be able to see older patches below. You can pick up whichever you want. That is assuming the big storm is not messing it up. If you saved your downloads, you can go back from there.

    I just checked: It does appear to be down. I have most of them.

    4639-3712 seems to be the newest.
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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    Dave is correct about the last build number.
    If you are using Runtime, the build numbers need to be the same or you may have failing progs.
    Can you explain the behaviour?
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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    Dave-Ted,

    Well, here's the situation. Early last week one of the desktops on our network was replaced with a new system. Late in the week I loaded Alpha 5 v10.5 as I always do. (We've been running v10.5 for over 2 years.) I then tried to locate the same build that the other desktops use but could not locate it....I don't know why. At any rate, I figured it was no big deal because I could take this opportunity to upgrade her machine and everyone else's to the latest build. So I applied the latest build to the new machine (but no others) and everything seemed to go well for her.

    I should interject that we do not run in a shadowed environment. Everyone runs directly off the server in a star method where database and programs are centrally located. It has worked beautifully for 2 years now and has given us no trouble whatsoever.

    Well, back to the story. So yesterday we discovered that there an important program was not working properly on the newly installed system, i.e. it failed to display the results of its query. So at that point, I went ahead and loaded the latest patch to my system and the server but no one else's. Then I started having the same problems...still, none of the other down-level systems were.

    Now I have my monthly statements to run tomorrow and I'm really afraid that the program will bomb somewhere...it is a highly structured and complex program. My option is to run the program from another machine or drop the two machines back to the same build level that the others are running.

    Thus my original question of how to locate that particular build. I would have liked to have provided specificity on the build numbers but that information is at work and I'm at home.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    In A5V10.5 when you click Help > Download Patches you will see a link to ALL previous patches at the very bottom. I'd go there to look but their patch server is down, surely due to tropical storm Sandy.
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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    Tom, have you told us the build number of the "down level" build you're looking for?

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    Tom,

    The working build is 10.5 3739, build 3629.

    The non-working build is: v10.5 build 4369, build 3712

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    I thought I had saved all of my old updates but I guess that I deleted them. The only one I have is the one you say is not working.

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    Unless you get this resolved during the day, I'll check to see if I have the older patch at home tonight.

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    That sounds great Tom. I'll let you know.

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    The Alpha site is back up and I was able to find the area where previous builds are stored. 3739_3629 was available.

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    Default Re: 10.5 patch situation

    (as Steve Wood noted in post #5)
    aren't all old patchs listed from the download patch page?

    and leads to this page

    http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/a...nate/index.htm

    So I take it the Alpha site was down for a few moments or 2....
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