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Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

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    #16
    Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

    Yes Carol,

    Microsoft SQL Server works well with Alpha Five. I have never had any issues with it.

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      #17
      Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

      What a lot of people apparently do not know is that SQLServer 2008 R2 standard multi-tenant capability is present. Version 2012 has still more improvements in this topic, further important issues such as failover, online backup etc. Redgate toolbelt tools is nice but pricey. Many things can be directly executed in Studio 2012.

      BTW Azure is no more then SQLSERVER in the CLOUD

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        #18
        Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

        Oracle Express is not the first with built-in multi-teanting MSSQLVER is the first after that Progress Software (not supported by AlphaSoftware I think they should.... to open market for A5 developers)

        I would point out though for most developers the express edition of MYSQL and MS enough there is always a limit because free does not exist. For example, with the use of MSSQLSERVER, the number of cores on the server is limited. In a multi-tenanting environment you should take this into account in your design of your infrastructure as the availability of your systems in the field of disaster and recovery.
        The reason I say this on the forums I regularly read Alpha V11 does not work it's slow, stutters etc, my advice look even further and make sure that your backend is well organized. If in doubt, contact a consultant with knowledge and proven experience in this field. On the forum you can use different experts for further advice. After all, if you're going to buy a house you still turn a broker for the best advice and assurance.
        Last edited by bea2701; 12-10-2012, 04:52 AM.

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          #19
          Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

          All of the above info is so helpful. Thank you to all.
          Carol King
          Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
          http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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            #20
            Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

            related question -

            if we use Alpha 5 to build an application that users will need to subscribe to (SaaS), then what are the on-going overhead costs if MSQL is the back-end database vs MySQL?

            MySQL is free, so that's $0

            But would Microsoft SQL consider me one user, or would they charge me additional as individuals subscribe to the application?
            MSQL since 2010
            A5V11 since Feb 2012

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              #21
              Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

              SQLServer Express is free within limits in database & size Core processors see www.microsoft.com/sqlserver

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                #22
                Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                If you hit the limits of SQL Express and need to go the "paid version" way, be aware costs are prohibitive. Generally for web apps you need to buy a "per processor" license that costs around 6 to 7000$ per processor.
                That's the reason i went the mySQL way ( i also used Postgres a lot with Visual Foxpro, but noticed mySQL is well supported by Alpha)
                To design the db's in mySQL i use Navicat.

                Jaime

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                  #23
                  Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                  The Commercial License is an agreement with MySQL AB for organizations that do not want to release their application source code. Commercially licensed customers get a commercially supported product with assurances from MySQL. Commercially licensed users are also free from the requirement of making their own application open source.

                  When your application is not licensed under either the GPL-compatible Free Software License as defined by the Free Software Foundation or approved by OSI, and you intend to or you may distribute MySQL software, you must first obtain a commercial license to the MySQL product.

                  Typical examples of MySQL distribution include:

                  Selling software that includes MySQL to customers who install the software on their own machines.

                  Selling software that requires customers to install MySQL themselves on their own machines.

                  Building a hardware system that includes MySQL and selling that hardware system to customers for installation at their own locations.

                  Specifically:

                  If you include the MySQL server with an application that is not licensed under the GPL or GPL-compatible license, you need a commercial license for the MySQL server.

                  If you develop and distribute a commercial application and as part of utilizing your application, the end-user must download a copy of MySQL; for each derivative work, you (or, in some cases, your end-user) need a commercial license for the MySQL server and/or MySQL client libraries.

                  If you include one or more of the MySQL drivers in your non-GPL application (so that your application can run with MySQL), you need a commercial license for the driver(s) in question. The MySQL drivers currently include an ODBC driver, a JDBC driver and the C language library.

                  GPL users have no direct legal relationship with MySQL AB. The commercial license, on the other hand, is MySQL AB's private license, and provides a direct legal relationship with MySQL AB.

                  With a commercial non-GPL MySQL server license, one license is required per database server (single installed MySQL binary). There are no restrictions on the number of connections, number of CPUs, memory or disks to that one MySQL database server. The MaxDB server is licensed per CPU or named user.

                  Non-Profits, Academic Institutions, and Private Individuals
                  If you represent a non-profit organization or an academic institution, we recommend you publish your application as an open source / free software project using the GPL license. In this manner, you are free to use MySQL software free of charge under the GPL license. We believe that if you have strong reasons to not publish your application in accordance with the GPL, you should purchase commercial licenses. Note that non-profits may apply to MySQL for free commercial licenses and such applications will be carefully considered.

                  If you are a private individual you are free to use MySQL software for your personal applications as long as you do not distribute them. If you distribute them, you must make a decision between the Commercial License and the GPL.

                  Please note that even if you ship a free demo version of your own application, the above rules apply.

                  Recommendations
                  Please note that MySQL AB can only give advice on which license is right for you. The final judgment, of course can be made only by a court of law. With that said, we recommend the commercial license to all commercial and government organizations. This frees you from the broad and strict requirements of the GPL license.

                  To all free software enthusiasts we recommend our products under the GPL license. We believe that MySQL AB is one of the world's largest companies that offers all its software under the GPL license.

                  To anyone in doubt, we recommend the commercial license. It is never wrong. Thanks to our cost-effective way of producing software, we are able to sell our commercial licenses at prices well under the industry average.

                  FOSS Exception
                  We have created a license exception which enables Free and Open Source software ("FOSS") to be able to include the GPL-licensed MySQL client libraries despite the fact that not all open source licenses are compatible with the GPL.Read more about the exception.

                  Older Versions
                  Note that some older versions of the MySQL database server (prior to 3.23.19) are using the Version 4, March 5, 1995, license. See the documentation for the specific version for more information.

                  When in Doubt
                  If you have any questions about Licensing, please contact the MySQL Sales Team to explore the options available for your specific scenario. http://www.mysql.com/buy-mysql

                  OSI = Open Source Initiative, www.opensource.org/licenses
                  GPL = GNU General Public License, http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html

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                    #24
                    Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                    eric,

                    If you are quoting a reference it is best to put the text in
                    quotes
                    like this. And even better, include a link to the source. I got half way through your post before I realized that it wasn't "you" speaking. BTW: clear as mud.
                    Peter
                    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                    [email protected]
                    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                      #25
                      Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                      Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
                      eric,

                      If you are quoting a reference it is best to put the text in like this. And even better, include a link to the source. I got half way through your post before I realized that it wasn't "you" speaking. BTW: clear as mud.

                      Like this ? Sorry

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                        #26
                        Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                        Originally posted by bea2701 View Post
                        The Commercial License is an agreement with MySQL AB for organizations that do not want to release their application source code.
                        I think this fires just if you modify MySQL source code and most of developers/users do not have any need/skill for that.

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                          #27
                          Re: Is MySQL best sql software to use? Does it really cost thousands of dollars?

                          Originally posted by bea2701 View Post
                          Like this ?

                          "Quotes" i.e. quote block - like below:
                          The Commercial License is an agreement with MySQL AB for organizations that do not want to release their application source code. Commercially licensed customers get a commercially supported product with assurances from MySQL. Commercially licensed users are also free from the requirement of making their own application open source.

                          etc etc
                          Peter
                          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                          [email protected]
                          https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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