Re: v12 Release Notes
There is NOTHING hypothetical about that. I don't quite understand why you would say that as I specifically stated that "I personally have taken a high-profile mission-critical application environment into the clouds and the process of working that out with the data centers alone is an eye-opening experience." So what exactly is hypothetical about that?
Indeed the case I was referring to I was in charge of a migration to the clouds at enterprise level, with a multi million dollar budget. That however does not say there is no place in the cloud for small businesses at all. To say so is complete denial of all the offers that are in the market today and are quite competitive towards maintaining your own server-racks and so on. There is no reason why "making business decisions based on sound & practical reasoning" would keep you away from outsourcing IT to the clouds and external data centers. Quite on the contrary I would say. Having pre-defined thoughts about this issue is what bites reasoning in the first place.
Even with regards to costs there is no direct comparison when you compare the features of data centers with full redundancy to your home situation with none. What you get is not equal, so costs are not equal as well.
But if you want guaranteed 99% up-time, you need to have protocols, security and redundancy in place at home as well, otherwise you will not be able to reach that level in a "guaranteed" way, which were the words you used. So please don't compare apples with oranges.
Some applications are not suited to lift to the clouds, but some especially are. So it really all depends on what you need. Do you have 1 POS application which needs to manage two or three cash registers then no, you might have nothing to find in the clouds. But if you are managing applications that hold business logic interacting with consumers then you might think completely otherwise and find yourself in a very non-competitive position if you keep all the hardware in your own basement. Of course they are complimentary, nobody ever stated otherwise. There is no argument about that.
If you want to see statistics (which actually is a science) as an activity that produces results that "are what you read in them" you are welcome to do so. Hack some even say no men landed on the moon! That is however not what statistics is meant to do for you. It offers you facts and relations between those facts on which you could act. You can deny the facts on data center growth as much as you want, the use of energy from those data centers is growing in such a way that in a couple of years the whole of Great Britain will be out of internal energy supply and become dependent on imported natural gas. Confirmed from various sides. Deny that as well if you want. The consequences of that will visit you anyhow whether you denied it or not.
Of course, as said before, not every application or use is suited for lifting to the clouds. That does not say that some specifically are. The advantages are numerous. Back-up for instance. Who does that at home in the right way? Who has his backups stored away from the business site on a location with a different risk profile to state only just one requirement? There are many, many advantages. And if your application is suited, there really are no reasons for not taking it to the cloud.
Originally posted by SNusa
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Indeed the case I was referring to I was in charge of a migration to the clouds at enterprise level, with a multi million dollar budget. That however does not say there is no place in the cloud for small businesses at all. To say so is complete denial of all the offers that are in the market today and are quite competitive towards maintaining your own server-racks and so on. There is no reason why "making business decisions based on sound & practical reasoning" would keep you away from outsourcing IT to the clouds and external data centers. Quite on the contrary I would say. Having pre-defined thoughts about this issue is what bites reasoning in the first place.
Even with regards to costs there is no direct comparison when you compare the features of data centers with full redundancy to your home situation with none. What you get is not equal, so costs are not equal as well.
But if you want guaranteed 99% up-time, you need to have protocols, security and redundancy in place at home as well, otherwise you will not be able to reach that level in a "guaranteed" way, which were the words you used. So please don't compare apples with oranges.
Some applications are not suited to lift to the clouds, but some especially are. So it really all depends on what you need. Do you have 1 POS application which needs to manage two or three cash registers then no, you might have nothing to find in the clouds. But if you are managing applications that hold business logic interacting with consumers then you might think completely otherwise and find yourself in a very non-competitive position if you keep all the hardware in your own basement. Of course they are complimentary, nobody ever stated otherwise. There is no argument about that.
If you want to see statistics (which actually is a science) as an activity that produces results that "are what you read in them" you are welcome to do so. Hack some even say no men landed on the moon! That is however not what statistics is meant to do for you. It offers you facts and relations between those facts on which you could act. You can deny the facts on data center growth as much as you want, the use of energy from those data centers is growing in such a way that in a couple of years the whole of Great Britain will be out of internal energy supply and become dependent on imported natural gas. Confirmed from various sides. Deny that as well if you want. The consequences of that will visit you anyhow whether you denied it or not.
Of course, as said before, not every application or use is suited for lifting to the clouds. That does not say that some specifically are. The advantages are numerous. Back-up for instance. Who does that at home in the right way? Who has his backups stored away from the business site on a location with a different risk profile to state only just one requirement? There are many, many advantages. And if your application is suited, there really are no reasons for not taking it to the cloud.
Moreover, it's just applied math, and the numbers are highly subjective to the means and methods by which they are collected. They are also subject to interpretation, based upon the context of how they are presented. (United States unemployment statistics are the best example I can think of.) ~ It goes without saying that when people/companies blindly follow the numbers instead of applying sound judgement ~ bad things tend to happen!
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