Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing record

[jackp_MDB]

I have a simple non-editable grid with associated Search and Detail View forms.

When I select the "New Record" button, the Detail View opens AND the cursor is sitting on the first field waiting for entry.

If I select an existing record in the grid, to do an update, the Detail View opens, but the cursor is "no-where." To enter/change anything on the Detail View showing an existing record, I must manually select a field on the View and then proceed with entry, etc.

Does anyone know a way to get the Detail View to open with for example the first field selected for entry when editing an existing record on the grid?

Jack

[GGandhi]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

hello

i am under the impression that is expected.
since the detail view is as it says detail view of the information, if you want to edit just select a field edit and save or cancel the edit. detail view is doing double duty as displaying data and accepting editing the data. displaying is the first priority. editing comes next.
on the other hand a new record entry is doing just that so the cursor goes to the first available field.
imagine you want to edit the last field but the the cursor is sitting on the first one you need to tab all the way down to the last field like we used to do long time ago or click the field and edit.
with the current way you are not distracted and can select the field you want without making any errors should you want to edit, not just see the full information.

hope this helps.

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

Thanks for your reply...I know it is the way it "acts," but I was hoping for a workaround.

What I "need" is a way to make it an input form (like a new record) without the user taking any actions. I thought someone might know the code or "switch" that needs to be set to activate it on call rather than after "selecting."


Jack

[GGandhi]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

my apologies for not understanding.
i just checked my grid
the grid is read only with search and updatable detail view.
in the properties of the detail view i allowed update, insert. i do not want delete so that is unchecked.
when i click on an item in the grid part it opens up the detail view with the first field highlighted, and i can update that field or move around to any other field to update without any problem.
is this you are looking for?
if not i am sure someone else with more experience will help.

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Ganhdi,

Yes..that's what I want, but when I "unchecked" the delete option as you discussed my Detail View does not open with the first field highlighted...it's just open.

Once I click on any of the View fields, it's as if the View was "activated" and I can then start my changes.

On my read-only grid, I also have the search and updatable detail view options; but the only one that will open with the first field highlighted is when I get the Detail View using the "New Record" button. I've tried all the other options, but if it's not a "New Record," the view opens with no highlights...

I've toyed with placing the Detail View in the "Editing Properties." If I change the Row Edit Style to "OnDemand," I can then use the "afterDetailOpen" java event and {grid.Object}.editFieldDV(field) method to select a field as I want. I've run into a problem with this though because the command seem to behave more like a toggle switch...the first time I run it, it works as advertised and does exactly as I want, but the next time I open the View, it "toggles" back to being in the "un-edit" mode rather than to consistently select the edit field. If I re-open the View, it is again in the edit mode with the field selected as on the first opening...

Jack

[GGandhi]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

ok
now i got it
this is what you do and tell me you are satisfied.
keeping delete or not keeping is not crucial to this.
on the detail section look into the properties.
display options and the first one display set it to popup window-modal.
9 lines down check "only show on request"
set up hyperlink to a field in the grid whatever you like then
try working preview see if you like that
still no good
i will make a screencast for you.
most likely you are displaying the detail on page itself change to what i suggested. and see

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

My grid was set the same as you recommended except I was using a "double_click" on the row to update a row. I was/am already set to display the detail view as a popup window-modal.

Go ahead and make a video if you wish...when you edit on your system, does it pop-up with a field already selected?

Jack

[GGandhi]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

to be fair to me
this is the first time there is a "double_click" mentioned.
i am not sure why you don not want the hyperlink method which i think is default and it is easy. take a at the first and second line of detail section properties.
since you are looking at double click method i will take a look at the grid again if i find a way to do this i will post back, there is no need for a video since the question is different than in the earlier posts.

ps: i did check, double click method does not do what you want. click hyperlink method does. it is your call to choose a method.

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

I do not have any "luck" using hyperlink, double-click, or click on row...all "work" the same.

I've not recorded before, but will make a recording to show what I'm seeing and update the post when I've got it.

Jack

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

This is the video clip I made to show what's happening on my app using the hyperlink and the double-click methods...My primary reason to keep the "double-click" method is that so far all my grids use it...I would have to change them all to use a hyperlink, but if that's what the problem is (not true on my system) than I will do it.

Jack

[GGandhi]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

jack
here is my video
may be i am sitting far from the mic and the voice is low
but the video seems ok
take a look

http://screencast.com/t/yYTVKPEGn

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

Very interesting...each of your modes brings up the edit/update view just like I want...I've been looking at the view, etc. to try to come up with an answer, but since it works different on each of your modes, I must have something else different in my setup???????

The only obvious difference I see is that I also have a Search setup on my grids...don't know if that's part of it or not?

I'll keep checking on the property windows to see if I can come up with a culprit...but your views all work like I want mine to.

Jack

[jackp_MDB]

Re: Detail View differences when adding a new record versus editing an existing recor

Gandhi,

Excellent! Enabling the "pre-fetch" did cause the problem.

I was led to believe that it was always good to pre-fetch since subsequent work would be faster than without it...I've got it turned on in all my grids, etc.

You really had me going when I viewed your view and the way it worked in all modes.

Thanks for the help Gandhi.

Jack