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    Hi,
    I have too access my A5 app from 2 different physical locations. There are only 2 users on at the same time. This is not for development. I also need to be able to print locally. In the past I have used programs like Logmein and Gotomypc. They do work, but they require the host computer to be on the whole time, and the internet connection on the host computer is somewhat flaky. I have looked into Dropbox and Sugarsynch but I am not sure if they are designed for this kind of use. What other options are there? I prefer something "Cloud based" that doesn't require any specific computer to be on.
    Thanks
    Josh

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    Re: acessing desktop app remotely

    Josh,
    There is no solution that fit your wishes. An A5 desktop application must reside on a computer. There is no "cloud" option here. So if you want remote access to a desktop app then you have to have access to that computer. Therefore, it is a hosted process, whether on a server, or through some hosting software like Logmein residing on the computer that is turned on. The only other option is web based on cloud server. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
    John Michaels
    "The only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - great quote but probably not Sir Edmund Burke

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      #3
      Re: acessing desktop app remotely

      I'm assuming you are using DBF files for your database.

      You are right in that DropBox and SugarSync will not work, they are not capable of doing the file based record locking/sharing required by DBF.

      There are a large number of companies offering virtual private servers (VPS) that are capable of hosting either file sharing or applications.

      Cloud based file sharing using CIF/SMB is more complicated to set up but can be pretty cheap (for example, Linux based VPS using Samba at Linode is only $20/month).

      You can also use VPS based terminal services, this is where the application runs in a remote VPS and you use terminal services to access the remote application. This requires more resources and is more expensive, but it can be simpler to set up. (Many users here have excellent results using terminal services.)

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        #4
        Re: acessing desktop app remotely

        Jacob,
        Yes I am using dbf tables. Im not that technical so I don't understand the rest of your reply. I did find this:
        http://www.egnyte.com/
        Would this work?
        Josh

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          #5
          Re: acessing desktop app remotely

          I don't believe Egnyte will work. You can think of their file sharing as more like file syncing. You aren't accessing the file directly, but copies of the file that are then synchronized. Most online file sharing services work this way. The important part missing from these services is concurrency. That is, multiple people cannot modify the same file at the SAME time and maintain data integrity.

          The only type of file sharing that will work with Alpha is CIFS/SMB, this is the file sharing system built into Windows (and is available for many other platforms). (Actually, there are a few other systems that will work, but they would be more difficult in this scenario).

          More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc939973.aspx.

          Another option is to convert your application to SQL. Using a SQL database remotely is pretty easy (converting from DBF may not be, however).

          (Just a side note, since you say you aren't that technical, the easiest solution may be just to get your internet fixed and continue to use logmein / gotomypc.)

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            #6
            Re: acessing desktop app remotely

            Thanks
            Will probably take your advice and continue with remote software.

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              #7
              Re: acessing desktop app remotely

              I have clients where we do this all the time - and prints locally

              the client has a formal server, with 2008R2 and 5 T/S (termial services) seats, and accesses remotely. Several can do this at the same time.
              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
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                #8
                Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                From what I understand
                Team Viewer Personal could be installed as host on one terminal (networked) and accessed from any other remote.

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                  #9
                  Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                  Ray,
                  Is Team Viewer similar to Logmein, or Gotomypc? Those, I am familiar with, and have used them in the past. I was trying to find something similar to Filemaker hosting, where I'm not hosting the app on one of my computers.

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                    #10
                    Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                    It works like terminal server, in the thin client regime (desktop replicator, keyboard mouse wedge). Like Citrix.
                    Terminal server is Citrix licensed to MS I believe.
                    The personal (free version) Team Viewer allows one host/client combo that would do what you describe. Meant as a personal "away from office pc" connection.
                    Otherwise similar in function to Logmein and Gotomypc. But expandable to business version and commercial opts purchase.

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                      #11
                      Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                      TeamViewer does not remove your hosting the app and the hosting machine on all the time (for 24/7 access). It is like LogMeIn that you are familiar with. So is the terminal services that Martin described. These are hosting computers - always on - hosting the desktop application that can be accessed remotely.
                      Mike W
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                        #12
                        Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                        Dies team viewer allow printing locally on the free version? With Team Viewer doesn't it request a new ID every time you use it?

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                          #13
                          Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                          The ID's are set at install to the computer and you can set it up so the password for the hosts is fixed to one of your choosing. Don't know about local printing since I never had need to do it.
                          John Michaels
                          "The only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - great quote but probably not Sir Edmund Burke

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                            Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                            error
                            Last edited by DaveM; 06-23-2013, 08:25 PM.
                            Dave Mason
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                              #15
                              Re: acessing desktop app remotely

                              Originally posted by john michaels View Post
                              ....Don't know about local printing since I never had need to do it.
                              Neither have I but I believe you can do it by setting up your local printer on the remote using a URL address. I do know you can print on the remote computer you are connecting to, but I am pretty sure that is not what you are asking. Anytime I have wanted to print something on my computer I have just transferred the file and printed it. File transfers seem very fast.

                              Raymond Lyons

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