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Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

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    #31
    Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

    What Windows operating systems support Alpha Five?

    Alpha Five and the Application Server will run on Windows 2000, XP (Home or Professional), 2003, Vista, 2008, and 7. Each user must have registry-writing privileges. Under Windows XP this means the user must be an administrator or power user. Alpha Five runs as a 32 bit application under 64 bit versions of Windows.
    this is from their description for version 11. windows 8 is not listed.
    i want to stress to you that i do not want to be labelled as defender of alpha. but merely stating don't get very upset with that message. just advice your customers to check with you before upgrading anything. then something will not work and they want it to be fixed yesterday or the day before.
    thanks for reading

    gandhi

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      #32
      Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

      Many Alpha developers are running A5V10- Anywhere V12 under Windows 8 without any critical issues.
      Further Alpha Anywhere is build with V2010 or VS2012 if there where any OS level issues Alphateam would have fixed this in the beta or even before the offical kick-off to customers

      Hope this helps

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        #33
        Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

        The only reason I purchased V11 was because I was told V10 would not run on Windows 8. I purchased V12 Anywhere under the assumption it would run even better under Win 8 and found out the V12 is no different than V11. Its exactly the same.

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          #34
          Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

          when win 8 first came out, v10 had a real problem. Not sure which changed v10 or probably win8 relaxed some due to pressure from many companies and users of legacy apps.

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            #35
            Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

            Windows 8 did not have a problem. It fully loaded A5 which gave the "Not Licensed for this.. " message and shuts down.
            Read the posts before barging in, people.

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              #36
              Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

              Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
              Windows 8 did not have a problem. It fully loaded A5 which gave the "Not Licensed for this.. " message and shuts down.
              Read the posts before barging in, people.
              Ray,

              Your saying V12 under Windows 8 not even started during the Beta program period? thats's wird so to speak, but will it will load and there is a A5 error message "Not Licensed for this.. " and goodbye! m......

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                #37
                Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                Seriously Eric !
                READ all posts before you misquote me. I did not at any stage say that. Nothing to do with V12 OR Beta - that you made up.
                Quote me absolutely, but from my own posts otherwise it's not what I said.

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                  #38
                  Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                  That conversation goes back to the beginning ex post #13- an older client themselves upgrading to WIN8
                  Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                  With reference to my posts #4 and #6.
                  As sent to me, the attached screenshot is what MY client got first, running v10 with WIN 8. Before I got them to run in XP compatibility
                  It appears not a WIN compatibility issue but Alpha redirecting client to themselves for a required upgrade.
                  In South Africa we have a saying "you are picking up stompies" - stompies is the last of the cigarette butt that is tossed on the street.

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                    #39
                    Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                    in nederland is die gesegde e hoef nie so vel te reageer op 'n normale vraag en nie direk uit jou plaat te gaan, n�rens voor nodig as jy my ten minste verstaan​​, soek die lekker self uit. Goeie atmosfeer hier op die forum die laaste maande, ek het wel wat anders om te doen vandag en m�re ook sukses!
                    Last edited by bea2701; 07-22-2013, 07:28 AM.

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                      #40
                      Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                      Jammer as jy het die verkeerde begrip.
                      I'm simply factual. Important to clarify that it is not v11 nor v12 that (presently) has a problem with the latest WINx

                      What I am having difficulty getting across is, that users will upgrade their systems over time and will expect to re-install their legally purchased software.
                      A problem with big change in Windows we cannot predict, and MS failing to run the software could occur. . .

                      But me building in a silent check, that if they use a newer operating system than they originally installed on, I WILL LOCK THEM OUT WITHOUT WARNING. DISABLING their business. Stating that they are not licensed and must now upgrade - is BAAAAD practice. Insulting - Accusing them of contravening licence.
                      Now, I didn't do that to them - but it appears that way. I am intermediary. They did not choose to deal with Alpha.

                      WIN 8 had not appeared at the time of v10.5 - Alpha could only state in the version (if any at all) that it hadn't been tested beyond WINx
                      Unilaterally locking a business out of their software at any time is a serious business.
                      Last edited by Ray in Capetown; 07-22-2013, 09:53 AM.

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                        #41
                        Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                        If you will recall we have a number of posts raising the issue of V10.5 not being compatible with Win 8. Alpha finally said it was not and gave us an upgrade path to v11. It was because of that I purchased the v11 license. Some were doing compatibility mode when running it (v10.5) but I needed something with off the shelf compatibility. If v10.5 is now fully Win 8 compatible that is a good thing.
                        Regards,

                        John W.
                        www.CustomReportWriters.net

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                          #42
                          Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                          Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                          Jammer as jy het die verkeerde begrip.
                          I'm simply factual. Important to clarify that it is not v11 nor v12 that (presently) has a problem with the latest WINx

                          What I am having difficulty getting across is, that users will upgrade their systems over time and will expect to re-install their legally purchased software.
                          A problem with big change in Windows we cannot predict, and MS failing to run the software could occur. . .

                          But me building in a silent check, that if they use a newer operating system than they originally installed on, I WILL LOCK THEM OUT WITHOUT WARNING. DISABLING their business. Stating that they are not licensed and must now upgrade - is BAAAAD practice. Insulting - Accusing them of contravening licence.
                          Now, I didn't do that to them - but it appears that way. I am intermediary. They did not choose to deal with Alpha.

                          WIN 8 had not appeared at the time of v10.5 - Alpha could only state in the version (if any at all) that it hadn't been tested beyond WINx
                          Unilaterally locking a business out of their software at any time is a serious business.
                          Yes now you that wrote it sounds quite different and distinct. Your client is outraged he uses W8 and the application no longer works. Neither party is to blame for this except time. Alpha Software is not to blame and not Microsoft and this case including yourself, so that's a relief. If you have V12 runtime Desktop, create a version for your client and install it on Windows 8 computers. Problem solved and your customer happy. Alpha Software itself indicates that this works and supports. I would just let the customer pay for software update and the time that you use that is very normal and then they make their own choice.

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                            #43
                            Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                            As I stated above.

                            When windows 8 came out, they had very strict policies built in. Over the past year, those restrictions have laxed a bit to allow more of the older apps to work.

                            What happens when win9 comes out? Nobody knows yet including ms. I suspect.

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                              #44
                              Re: Ver 11 will run OK until Windows [x] release

                              Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                              Windows 8 did not have a problem. It fully loaded A5 which gave the "Not Licensed for this.. " message and shuts down.
                              Read the posts before barging in, people.
                              Ray, calm down. Maybe it was not a "problem" but what Alsie says is true, based on my experience with win8 and v10. That is, even in compatibility mode I initially had trouble with v10 and v10.5 until after about a million (or was it 35?) windows updates got applied and then I had no problems and have been able to run a number of old programs that weren't around even for win7.

                              But, I agree with you about Alpha's "not Licensed.. " message. There is no excuse for that--other than it being a means of getting people to pay for an upgrade to v11 or 12. I suspect, but do not claim to know, that without that message mucking things up V10 would run fine in win8 without being in compatibility mode. Plenty of other old program do.

                              Raymond Lyons

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