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Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

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    Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

    Up to now, I never find famous websites use Alpha Software. As long as I know famous websites usually are developed by ASP/ASP.net, PHP, Java. Does anyone know WHY ?
    If there are famous websites use Alpha Software, please let me know the website links.

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    Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

    Do you mean like ebay, youtube, craigslist, and such?

    It is pretty certain they use javascript(of some type), probably ajax, sql of some flavor, and the backgrounds for asp or java or php, html/html5, maybe perl/cgi. They all use asp, js, html, or php pages.

    Just figure out what alpha has that is not in this list and you most likely have your reason.
    Last edited by amorris; 08-16-2013, 12:44 AM.

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      #3
      Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

      Probably most big and well known web sites were "hand-made" as Al suggests. RAD tools like Alpha are more often used by independent developers and small to medium size companies. Also the bigger the player the more likely they will use industry-standard tools like Net and Java. And currently Alpha uses their own proprietary web server and not IIS or Apache and until that changes bigger players probably won't consider Alpha as an option.
      Peter
      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

      [email protected]
      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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        #4
        Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

        The QUALITY, community, support, and standards of alpha are nowhere near that of php, asp.net, java.
        Scott Moniz - Computer Programmer/Analyst
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        contact us to discuss options.

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          #5
          Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

          Hi,
          totally agree with Peter, but probably also a not good marketing strategy from Alpha Software. Why most of users use or have used the FREE version of Winzip? Simply because is Free
          Cristiano
          [email protected]

          Skype: cris-do

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            #6
            Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

            If you are a large company and have a team of developers, then you use industry standards and build your own systems from a low level up and have total control over almost every aspect of your application. If you are a single developer who does not wish to code at a lower level and still want to deliver complex, highly bespoke and company-specific applications, then Alpha is a great option.

            Alpha allows you to design the application logic without having to know the nuts and bolts of everything. That said, it is still difficult to "polish" your application without using javascript and xbasic trickery, so the better you are with CSS, HTML and Javascript the better your applications will look and perform.

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              #7
              Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

              Thanks for all the comments. What I am afraid is Alpha Software can not handle millions of user that connected together at the same time. Like facebook, twitter their users can login at the same time maybe in hundred thousand or even millions. If Alpha Software can handle this matter, I am very happy. I hope someone has experience in developing Alpha web application with total active user more than 1 million and share their experience.

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                #8
                Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                If you have a website that is approaching millions of users you have more than just the software to worry about.

                You would have to use multiple servers for that one website. You would do the same with Alpha.

                You have to load balance high usage servers no matter what software you are using.

                I do not have experience with a website of more than 1 million users, but I understand the concept.

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                  Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                  Originally posted by purnawarman View Post
                  What I am afraid is Alpha Software can not handle millions of user that connected together at the same time. Like facebook, twitter their users can login at the same time maybe in hundred thousand or even millions. If Alpha Software can handle this matter, I am very happy. I hope someone has experience in developing Alpha web application with total active user more than 1 million and share their experience.
                  Needless to say, Alpha can not handle "millions of users" or even anything close to that. Anything requiring that many users probably does require a grounds up solution, not a RAD package like Alpha. Having said that, anytime I hear people talk about building a new web site for that many users I think they are dreaming. But best of luck to you.
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                  [email protected]
                  https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                    #10
                    Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                    Maybe I have the wrong customer base but every time someone starts out with an absolute minimum requirement of say 100K users and I tell them not possible, they say OK and continue forward anyway like it never mattered.
                    Steve Wood
                    See my profile on IADN

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                      #11
                      Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                      Here's how you handle millions of users at once:

                      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...a-centres.html

                      -Steve
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                        #12
                        Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                        Steve,

                        I really don't think a million people will fit in there. :)

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                          #13
                          Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                          I think that if you gave Alpha a big enough set of servers, and you threw enough licenses at it, you could create a server farm that could handle a million users.

                          I don't know WHAT that scale would be, but it could be done.
                          Last edited by lgrupido; 08-22-2013, 07:41 AM. Reason: spelling error

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                            #14
                            Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                            Server performance is always a problem. Nothing is enough.

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                              #15
                              Re: Why famous websites never use Alpha Software for public access ?

                              I think Selwyn (or someone in the organization) has said that with enough servers, load balancers, and other such things, Alpha does quite well.
                              You can certainly bet that Facebook and Twitter are not being run from one or two servers.
                              Gregg
                              https://paiza.io is a great site to test and share sql code

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