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    moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

    I have a big Desktop-Only app I would like to move to V12. A brief test has uncovered no issues. Has anyone moved from 10 to 12, and discovered any issues?
    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
    972 524 8714
    [email protected]

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    Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

    Hi Martin,

    I understand v11 and 12 are virtually the same. I have moved many apps(some are **very large) to v11 with no problems at all. That is coming from v10.5 and very few changes from v10.

    ** I call large as over 50 tables/forms/reports and a lot of code.

    I hope this helps you.

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      #3
      Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

      thanks - mine is about 680 tables

      Tables: 686
      Sets: 127
      Forms: 556
      Browses: 31
      Reports: 336
      Letters: 0
      Labels: 26
      Scripts: 229
      Appends: 212
      Summaries: 104
      Functions: 107
      Last edited by martinwcole; 09-01-2013, 02:43 PM.
      Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
      972 524 8714
      [email protected]

      ____________________
      "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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        #4
        Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

        Martin,
        I wish I could help you more on this, but I suggest it could be a matter of what code you may have used in scripts, functions and other. I would doubt uyou used anything that has changed from v10.5 to v11.
        I do not have v12 at this point to test with.
        Suggest you try opening a copy of the application with v12 and try all the tests you possibly can for compatibility. I am sure you are already doing that though.

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          #5
          Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

          Martin you should be ok with this but one word of warning - if you use Netmailer or Reportmailer they don't currently work with V12
          Bob
          Bob Whitaker

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            Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

            Thanks - so far so good - any word on when they are going to fix it so they will work?
            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
            972 524 8714
            [email protected]

            ____________________
            "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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              #7
              Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

              Originally posted by martinwcole View Post
              Thanks - so far so good - any word on when they are going to fix it so they will work?
              You are joking right?
              I am still waiting for confirmation that V11 is officially stable, although Richard has said that he "thinks it is stable".
              See our Hybrid Option here;
              https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


              Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
              You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                #8
                Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                Ted - you are behind the times - I have been using V11 for several years with some very big and complicated apps. V11 is rock solid!!
                Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                972 524 8714
                [email protected]

                ____________________
                "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                  Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                  I am finding it very hard to get any sort of response from Alpha. Elsewhere in this forum others have indicated that the level of Alpha Customer Service has fallen way below what it used to be and is acceptable and am very sorry to say after many many years of excellent service this is painfully true. I bought the upgrade to V12 so we could continue with our application on Win 8 in early July and after a few exchanges of email, the first of which needless to say suggested it was my fault, there was a reluctant acceptance that neither Netmailer or Reportmailer would install with V1. We are now six or seven weeks down the line and again following a number of emails to customer service NONE OF WHICH WERE ANSWERED, I contacted Richard directly and some days later received an email saying it wasn't fixed and they could not indicate when it would be fixed. CAVEAT EMPTOR ( let the buyer beware )
                  Bob Whitaker

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                    Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                    Originally posted by martinwcole View Post
                    Ted - you are behind the times - I have been using V11 for several years with some very big and complicated apps. V11 is rock solid!!
                    Well I checked today and there is still a health warning on using the latest patch.
                    It isn't as solid as it should be. See complaints from Alastair re the browse issues. He had his post part pulled and altered.
                    See our Hybrid Option here;
                    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                    Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                    You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                      #11
                      Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                      I still use the last full download. afraid of the patches until the final comes out.

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                        Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                        Ted, I suspect people who are having issue with the browse have very limited experience in using embedded browses. I have 30 Hospitals in MD entering data in an embedded browse, with out issues; I have several more in IA doing the same; and I have many Hearing Aid dealers accross TX doing the same. - all using V11 more or less since its inception.

                        However, I will add this caveat - when I have a build that works for my software I DO NOT UPDATE ANY MORE PATCHES!

                        I am using build 2765 -3937 on win7 64 in most cases
                        Last edited by martinwcole; 09-07-2013, 05:02 PM.
                        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                        972 524 8714
                        [email protected]

                        ____________________
                        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                          #13
                          Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                          Amorris, I suspect that the last patch IS OUT. You can download earlier patches than what you currently have, if they work better than your current build.
                          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                          972 524 8714
                          [email protected]

                          ____________________
                          "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                            #14
                            Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                            Martin, I have quite a number on a5 as well and using embedded browse for data input. I do keep it simple and limited. I probably would have no problem with the latest patch. I don't care to be a debugger anymore.

                            But thanks for the thought.

                            I am fully aware of how the patches work since I have been with alpha5 from v1-v11. That is a good part that you can go backwards.

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                              Re: moving V10.5 Desktop only to V12

                              I suspect people who are having issue with the browse have very limited experience in using embedded browses.
                              This might well be true Martin, but the complainant had a previous version working just fine and it fell over in V11. The fix was the latest patch, however there is still a health warning. It was a known problem, so I'm not sure you can lay all of the blame on the chap concerned.
                              Of course there are workarounds and things you can do (but shouldn't), and should do but don't.

                              Amorris, I suspect that the last patch IS OUT.
                              This pre-release build is not intended to be used in a production environment. is still on the download page. So how do you reconcile your statement? Richard hasn't confirmed that the patch is stable although he believes it is. I await his confirmation.
                              See our Hybrid Option here;
                              https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                              Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                              You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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