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    #16
    Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

    Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
    Hhmm.. that's your opinion, not mine. The browse control has always been problematic but you can still use it. Experience teaches how you can use it. I have a number of clients going strong on the desktop with no plans to change.
    By the way, why would someone should hang on for the browse control that has been problematic? Well, for experience users like you said, you can use it. but for new users, why would they bother to learn and gain experience to use it. Go for another and use Alpha Anywhere where it is best suited for (Web and Mobile).

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      #17
      Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

      I didn't include the full thing Ted, that 'UPGRADE NOW $699" includes Developer edition as well. The full package.
      Just can't get Runtime without buying App Server. I don't know how that relates - they don't belong together.

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        #18
        Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

        Originally posted by JetLi View Post
        By the way, why would someone should hang on for the browse control that has been problematic? Well, for experience users like you said, you can use it. but for new users, why would they bother to learn and gain experience to use it. Go for another and use Alpha Anywhere where it is best suited for (Web and Mobile).
        I have a diametrically opposed view. AA for web for non programmer yes. For professional programmers , APP server and hosting costs sounds too restrictive. The younger professionals in my circle, working with PHP, Ruby, XML and newer J.. tools easily available are building original, purpose built, solid low cost to host, web apps. I can point you to some of these sites.

        On the other hand , in my chosen field, for me desktop with Alpha gets me spot on with what I propose to clients... meaning I can promise and deliver with precision, the most solid and seamless experience. And yes, it does not come quick and easy, you have to fiddle a lot with things to perfect them to that degree. Taming the browse and xdialog browses plays a major part in delivering hard to beat resilience and functionality. I get repeat business for new developments from clients once they experience the practical benefits.

        My own experience and opinion.

        PS. One day it could even become profitable
        Last edited by Ray in Capetown; 01-12-2014, 03:43 AM. Reason: PS

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          #19
          Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

          Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post

          I have a diametrically opposed view. AA for web for non programmer yes. For professional programmers , APP server and hosting costs sounds too restrictive. The younger professionals in my circle, working with PHP, Ruby, XML and newer J.. tools easily available are building original, purpose built, solid low cost to host, web apps. I can point you to some of these sites.

          On the other hand , in my chosen field, for me desktop with Alpha gets me spot on with what I propose to clients... meaning I can promise and deliver with precision, the most solid and seamless experience. And yes, it does not come quick and easy, you have to fiddle a lot with things to perfect them to that degree. Taming the browse and xdialog browses plays a major part in delivering hard to beat resilience and functionality. I get repeat business for new developments from clients once they experience the practical benefits.

          My own experience and opinion.

          PS. One day it could even become profitable
          Good luck!

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            #20
            Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

            I think I'm with you Ray. The browse has sometimes caused me a few problems, but they were overcome easily.
            I'm still on the fence re AS and Web. It's a money issue for me and there are, as the lady said in Mexico, "too many moving parts".
            I will need to decide soon, as one of my clients wants a web front end and mobile access also.
            Not sure they will pay for a separate WAS licence as they already have a web shop running on something else. (Not a clue what it is). Not sure they would go for a subscription license either, which leaves them open to price rises.
            I suppose I could ask for a special deal from AS for V12 and the Server, but the bundling of the RT and server has me confused. Porting to V12 would be an option, but work I'd rather not have to do at present.
            JL is on my stop list so unless I get mentioned in a Quote, I ignore those posts.
            In an ideal world, if AS went back to the one price for everything, I'd be happier.
            See our Hybrid Option here;
            https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


            Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
            You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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              #21
              Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

              Originally posted by JetLi View Post
              Good luck!
              Thanks Jet, fortunately luck has very little to do with it.
              Ted, let us know how you go with that.

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                #22
                Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

                I might just be in SA during the year on route to Zim.
                How close are you to the Airport?
                A beer would be good and old war stories!
                See our Hybrid Option here;
                https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                  #23
                  Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

                  How splendid would that be?
                  I am <20 mins from Capetown international, however connecting for Zim would likely be through Jhb which is 1400 km for me.

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                    #24
                    Re: v.11 or v.12 DESKTOP APP build...

                    I'll look at flights then, Ray. Would be good to meet up.
                    I am in no hurry.
                    See our Hybrid Option here;
                    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                    Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                    You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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