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    #16
    Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

    Jerry Brightbill of Alpha noted that there was problem in the most current release
    and the "pre-release" build should be used (built daily, after the formal release,
    considered "pre" relative to the next version).

    If you go to the release notes, there is information about pre-release builds and a link to the download site.

    http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/A...easenotes.html

    Since pre-release builds are often put up daily, the one in the download link may be newer that than the one listed in the notes as the notes may not be revised every day.


    I'm getting it onto my server now.

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      #17
      Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

      Yep, I'm on Build 2419_4356 and was just working on adding several controls on a UX and had not clicked Save button yet... then went into the Not Responding mode, waited and waited because I had not saved, but finally shut Alpha down and lost my recent work. Grrrrr.

      Let us know how the build behaves for you, Allan. BTW, does anyone else think it is amusing that Alpha posts in big red letters that the pre-release is not meant to be used in a production environment, but then you scroll down and see the 'Bugs' the pre-release is fixing? Do they think we are just going to leave the 'Bugs' in our production environment? Generally, the only reason I go get a pre-release is to get bug fixes...
      Carol King
      Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
      http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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        #18
        Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

        I've exchanged a few e-mails with Alpha regarding the different bugs I've seen. While they have identified some of them, others they need test cases sent to them to help resolve the problems. I experienced numerous issues with v3 and have rolled back to the April 2014 build (Build 2128_4292 (APR-29-2014). I help serve far too many clients to stay with v3 AND work around the issues AND build test cases to send to Alpha. I'm just too busy. Hopefully others will be able to do so.
        Mike Brown - Contact Me
        Programmatic Technologies, LLC
        Programmatic-Technologies.com
        Independent Developer & Consultant​​

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          #19
          Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

          This is just a long shot but try to set the "repaint optimization" property to disabled in control panel/view/settings/preferences/display. It could cope with the IDE hangups. You will notice that painting the windows is a little more clunky but apart from that no harm is done.
          Frank

          Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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            #20
            Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

            FYI - If you need to roll back, here is the page link with list of builds
            http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/a...nate/index.htm
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              #21
              Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

              The issue has been resolved and the fix is available in the current pre-release build. This thread has links to the pre-release build. The issue did not have anything to do with repaint optimization. We expect that the current pre-release build with this fix will be released next week.

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                #22
                Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                Originally posted by Selwyn Rabins View Post
                The issue has been resolved and the fix is available in the current pre-release build. This thread has links to the pre-release build. The issue did not have anything to do with repaint optimization. We expect that the current pre-release build with this fix will be released next week.
                Thanks Selwyn for the update. Do you know if Alpha will release a official update soon? I ask because pre-releases are not to be used for production sites.
                Mike Brown - Contact Me
                Programmatic Technologies, LLC
                Programmatic-Technologies.com
                Independent Developer & Consultant​​

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                  #23
                  Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                  while in general it is true that a pre-release build should not be used in a production site - in this case we are talking about using the pre-release of the development version to get around the occasional slowdown while you are building components. you do not have to switch your server to the pre-release build.

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                    #24
                    Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                    If we are developing in a later version than the version on the app server, then if we don't update the app server, doesn't it mean we also can't deploy any of our latest developments?

                    I keep being confused about this.
                    Carol King
                    Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
                    http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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                      #25
                      Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                      I've been under the impression that both development and app servers MUST be of the same version.
                      Mike Brown - Contact Me
                      Programmatic Technologies, LLC
                      Programmatic-Technologies.com
                      Independent Developer & Consultant​​

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                        #26
                        Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                        Originally posted by mikeallenbrown View Post
                        I've been under the impression that both development and app servers MUST be of the same version.
                        Yes ,they must be the same version because otherwise you may end up creating components/pages in the developer using new features that the appserver does not know about. In this case however the pre-release Selwyn refers to does not contain any new features but rather a bugfix for the developer. There will probably be a v3.01 (the version number is my guess) official release next week if I understand Selwyn's comments correctly. You probably want then to have developer & appserver version in sync again and from there on you can choose to use pre-releases or not but from the moment they contain new features you need to make sure developer & appserver are in version sync at least if you use the new features. I have no idea how things behave if you don't use new features and get out of version sync between developer & appserver. Safest thing is to be in version sync I think. Pre-releases to me have proven to be stable but there may be stuff in there that will not be in an official release (like debug code or so) Official releases to me are more like a kind of milestones. Of course the disclaimer on the prerelease notes page is the official standpoint: The pre-release build is not intended to be used in a production environment.
                        Frank

                        Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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                          #27
                          Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                          Originally posted by Clipper87 View Post
                          Official releases to me are more like a kind of milestones. Of course the disclaimer on the prerelease notes page is the official standpoint: The pre-release build is not intended to be used in a production environment.
                          Well the reality is that it is very difficult to follow that "official standpoint" when the official release has issues that are being fixed in the pre-release.

                          I strongly believe that Alpha should review the update policies and come up with a more stable process, something like making a monthly official release.
                          Edhy Rijo
                          Progytech
                          (Computer Consultants)
                          The makers of CardTracking.Net
                          www.progytech.com

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                            #28
                            Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                            I heartily agree, Edhy!
                            Carol King
                            Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
                            http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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                              #29
                              Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                              Well i am using Alpha since 2012, and been working on pre-release builds since day one. In all this time, only once or twice there was a problem with the current pre-release, at which point i just rolled back one notch.
                              On the other hand, this has allowed me to implement great technologies at a fast pace, plus all bugs i ever reported were always fixed almost instantly. This is something i never saw, particularly when working with a tool of that magnitude.

                              My 2 cents :-)

                              Jaime

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                                #30
                                Re: Alpha Development not responding (v3)

                                Also agreed, Jaime. I have had more issues introduced with pre-releases than it sounds like you have. And Alpha has been very responsive in dealing with those issues. I just find it a bit confusing to be told that a pre-release is not to be used in a production environment when I have no choice but to use it in order to take care of a bug in an official release. I think it might be good for them to hold still for awhile after issuing an official release and find out what bugs there are, and then issue another official release that has the bug fixes... without it being a pre-release, which should just be for letting us try new stuff, and not for fixing bugs. Although, being a developer myself, I do get how that might be impossible for them to do.
                                Carol King
                                Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
                                http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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