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    Push Notifications

    I have a customer who wants to setup an app to do push notifications.

    The customer is a tour provider. They want to be able to contact everyone currently on a trip at the same time to provide updates (such as TIME TO GET BACK TO THE BUS!)

    We would like to provide a phone app that would allow us to easily push messages such as this to all (or a select group) of phones that have installed the app.

    I don't have a lot of actual app experience - is this something that could be accomplished using Alpha Anywhere?

    Note: I am not looking for a bunch of links to other sites that offer push notifications. I already pay for an Alpha Server license, I'm hoping there is a way to use Alpha to accomplish this.

    I saw a video that showed an example of a push notification, but that looked like it was working with a computer logged into the server. I want to send a push to an app.

    #2
    Re: Push Notifications

    Push Notifications are possible with Alpha and PhoneGap Build. There are Push Notification plugins that you use. It's a bit of a process but certainly possible. Quite a while ago I did some successful Push Notifications testing with Alpha, Node.js and iOS... all under PhoneGap Build.

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      #3
      Re: Push Notifications

      Hi,
      You can use pubnub thirdparty. I looked at it sometime ago but never used it.
      You can check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByLD9J37lIY
      It is not technical, maybe if you message David Kates he may help you.

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        #4
        Re: Push Notifications

        Though the $0 pubnub price for a million pushes a day would be enough for this app, I would really like something native, if that is possible.

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          #5
          Re: Push Notifications

          If you look to the Alphas installing directory and node_services folder you find there ws_server script (websocket server). I do not know how native it is to me it seems to be a script using node modules. At least it is in Alphas installing directory so maybe we can say it is native. As usually no documentation just little information in release notes and one video just explaining the most basic. But a start. But maybe this is not what you are looking.

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            #6
            Re: Push Notifications

            push notifications while definitely possible, they themselves are not reliable as far as i know.
            you need a license (key, a key for each app) from apple or google or both, and the service is not guaranteed to deliver the message. it is like hit and run, there is no check that the message was delivered. apple has few nice documents regarding push notifications, they are worth reading. on the other hand sms is easy, possibly cheaper and has an endpoint check, meaning it, the message, is not delivered then you will know it.
            phone gap aka cordova has sms plugin. you may be able to incorporate then send sms from your app. there is also a developer who has done incorporating sms with alpha to their api to send text messages to any device phone as long as there is a phone number associated with it, they do charge money for it monthly. if that's not a happy news for you because of the added cost, search for raymond camden articles on sms phone gap, you will see how to set it up in phone gap.
            hope this helps, may be not what you are asking. i am just saying something to think about.
            if this is not what you need please disregard the post.
            Last edited by GGandhi; 12-12-2015, 07:26 PM.
            thanks for reading

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              #7
              Re: Push Notifications

              Hi Gandhi,

              I can already do txt messaging - and I do it for free.

              You can send txt messages the same way you send email. The trick is you have to know the carrier. That, I think, is the prime reason sending texts this way can cost money - the service is for looking up the carrier - not actually sending the text.

              But once you know the carrier, you can send a txt message to any phone.

              for instance, Verizon is

              phone#@vtext.com

              This only works, of course, if you can get the person to give you their phone provider - which is the case in many, but not all situations.

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                #8
                Re: Push Notifications

                The trick is you have to know the carrier
                i know, that is true with the desktop browser based applications (using alpha five email functionality, i do them too). is that also true if you do it in phone gap with plugin?
                thanks for reading

                gandhi

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                  #9
                  Re: Push Notifications

                  Alpha now support WEBSOCKET IO DOT NET i think it is in the pre-release. Selwyn made a example chat video for that purpose. It means push messages realtime from the Alpha server to the client. Cool stuff.

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                    #10
                    Re: Push Notifications

                    That would certainly be cool.

                    Do you have a link to the video you are referring to?

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                      #11
                      Re: Push Notifications

                      Originally posted by lgrupido View Post
                      That would certainly be cool.

                      Do you have a link to the video you are referring to?

                      http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/A...easenotes.html

                      "building realtime connetions" with UX components

                      Agree i can send my mother in law a push notification realtime "stay in the kitchen or i chain you" to here smartphone
                      Last edited by bea2701; 12-14-2015, 03:36 AM.

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                        #12
                        Re: Push Notifications

                        Originally posted by bea2701 View Post
                        Alpha now support WEBSOCKET IO DOT NET i think it is in the pre-release. Selwyn made a example chat video for that purpose. It means push messages realtime from the Alpha server to the client. Cool stuff.
                        I am not sure about dot NET I think it is more Node.js (post #5)

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                          #13
                          Re: Push Notifications

                          wrong thread

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                            #14
                            Re: Push Notifications

                            I seem to remember Bob Moore told me he was working on integrating push notification into AA; you may want to check with him. The websocket implementation will evolve ; right now you have to write your own filtering code to get it to work on a 1 to 1 basis rather than a public something. Selwyn is aware of that.
                            Frank

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                              #15
                              Re: Push Notifications

                              An alternative using SignalR as as standalone notification server in or outside IIS.
                              You can call SignalR from any JS client and push from the Signal machine to any client.

                              http://www.asp.net/signalr/overview/...nalr-self-host

                              Write your own Xbasic call from within A5 directly as you would call a DOT net function

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