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    Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

    I have a web application that I now need to make available to the general public and I need to ensure that it is secure. The app accesses an alpha database stored on a local server in a local domain called ourvis.local. The Alpha Application Server runs on the same server so that I have published the application to the LAN. I have created a certificate file in the server but this was rejected by the SSL company from which I want to purchase my SSL certificate as I had not specified a domain name. I have now purchased a domain to use for my web app and I regenerated my csr using the domain name that I purchased. This also resulted in an error 'CSR with SAN is not allowed' as I assume that the domain name of my server should be changed from a local domain to my new domain name. However I am a little uncertain about this and would like to know if there is anyone who can advise how best to approach this problem.
    Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

    So the way it works - and this is basic. You point your DNS where you purchased your Domain to your server where the actual files are. The certificate gets installed on the server, you will probably use port 443.

    You said that the "local" server is in a local domain. Typically, web applications are not served up "from the house" you would rent an actual server that is hosted by people who runs live servers with Mysql and windows server 2008, etc already installed and all you need to do is connect and upload your application - I am dumbing it down in a major way but I am not sure of your level of understanding.

    You may have to change your connection string as well for everything to work as expected once you move to a new domain - pretty much guarantee that. Once everything is setup - you'll be back to where you were when you were working and developing locally.

    Pretty sure when you rent a server from ZebraHost they have AS server already installed and you just have to enter your lic key.
    Anyways, are you actually serving your application from your home/work computer? It can be done but security wise it is much more involved than rented servers that are already aware of the threats to their servers (mostly of course).
    NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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      Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

      Firstly thanks for your reply. Our general website is hosted for us by an external company and we have added a button connection from this website to my alpha web application that is published in our local LAN on the server hosting the alpha database using an http address and our portal ip address.
      If I understand your explanation correctly we should get the Alpha Application Server installed on the website host and then publish the web application to their server. The SSL certificate would then be generated on the website host and installed there. What I don't understand with this solution is how our local server containing the web application can be connected to with a secure https address as the certificate relates to the host website.
      I am sure that I am missing something somewhere.
      Thanks again for your help.

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        Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

        Do not full understand what is the original problem. If it is creating CSR then you just have to try until you success. What comes to web domain name you did purchase it has nothing to do with the name of your physical server. You can name your server as you wish. And because you are using dbf your solution (lan and server together) seems to be only way to go and this solution is as good as any other. Just check that servers upload speed is good enough.

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          Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

          The idea is the Alpha Software Application server needs to serve up the website on port 443.

          Whats the name of your website, is it up and running?
          NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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            Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

            Most of my friends using windows server apps for the web are on smarterasp.net where they give free SSL. Now they also have ssd and some other nice stuff. windows server of choice, I think. I place mine on Linux, so not much help.
            Dave Mason
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            Skype is dave.mason46

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              Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

              Originally posted by DaveM View Post
              Most of my friends using windows server apps for the web are on smarterasp.net where they give free SSL. Now they also have ssd and some other nice stuff. windows server of choice, I think. I place mine on Linux, so not much help.
              I have been looking for a low cost solution to host a low volume Alpha application. Do you know if smarterasp.net supports Alpha Application Server?

              Thanks

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                Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

                Originally posted by Mark Williams View Post
                I have been looking for a low cost solution to host a low volume Alpha application. Do you know if smarterasp.net supports Alpha Application Server?

                Thanks
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                  Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

                  Originally posted by CharlesParker View Post
                  The idea is the Alpha Software Application server needs to serve up the website on port 443.
                  When you see in browser SSL lock you think that data is encrypted. And it is but not maybe all the way from server to browser . In fact this kind of trick is easy to do. So actually you can leave your Alpha Application server running to port 80 and client using browser will see anyway SSL lock in browser. I do it this way in my development server. This may be a good choice in some cases (performance) because Google puts SSL pages upper in search results and when served server data is not personal.

                  I know where datacenters I use are so if you use my development server from Boston then I can estimate that data is not under SSL about 250 miles and under SSL about 2500 miles.

                  So when you see SSL Lock it does not mean that data is encrypted all the way from server to browser.
                  Last edited by kkfin; 02-05-2018, 06:45 AM. Reason: example

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                    Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

                    yeah I know it does not HAVE to be on port 443, I was trying to demonstrate the difference by what I think his situation is. It sounds like his website is one one server and his AS application server is at the office and they just click an ip link to get to his office PC.
                    Pretty interesting about the 250 miles though, thanks for sharing that.
                    NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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                      Re: Put Web Application in Internet with SSL

                      Yes it is interesting. All you need to know is servers IP address. Then you can use that server with your own domain name and use SSL if you want. This is the reason you should never tell your real IP address and in fact you should hide it. My real IP address points in my server to an empty folder where is just one file index.html and one word in it. And if somebody checks my domain name with IP checker the result is not my servers real IP. Result is proxy IP. So somebody can hammer my domain name but not my IP.

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