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Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

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    #16
    Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

    Ben report the bug again through to the reporting process.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Albert Einstein, (attributed)
    US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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      #17
      Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

      Originally posted by Davidk View Post
      I think the bug should be re-submitted... addressing only the non-panel, popup modal window, tab out issue. In a web page, popup window... tabbing through fields is common. You should never be able to tab out... and into a disabled background window... that's ridiculous... I've never seen that.
      I'm willing to submit the bug report with specific parameters but your statement is a little hard to follow. I understand you are excluding panels and want to focus on pop-up windows, but there are numerous types of pop-up windows that I have come across.

      Here are the ways I know of to open a modal pop-up. Are these what you are referring to?
      1. Action JavaSscript for a Message Box in Advanced mode
      2. On a Grid that contains a Detail View part
      3. When one web component opens another web component with Action Javascript
      4. On a UX, displaying the contents of a Container Window

      Here is a video that demonstrates these methods.
      https://goo.gl/Ur7K3K

      I'm not sure I could implement your JavaScript into each of these methods. They don't all have an onRenderComplete event. This is where I think the Alpha IDE could help us out and inject the code for us.

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        #18
        Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

        There hasn't been any activity in this forum for a month but I have been thinking about it every day.

        I have come up with some jQuery statements that provide better selectors for the first and last controls. Here are the statements I’ve been experimenting with in the Chrome console that seem to select the correct ranges:
        Code:
        jQuery('div[a5windowtype="modal"]').find(':tabbable').first(); 
        jQuery('div[a5windowtype="modal"]').find(':tabbable').last();
        I think we may also need to look for controls that aren't tabbable, but can still receive focus. This could be something on the page with 'tabindex=-1'. If the user clicked this control and it happened to be the last control, and then pressed tab, we want the focus to redirect to the first focusable control.

        Code:
        jQuery('div[a5windowtype="modal"]').find(':focusable').first(); 
        jQuery('div[a5windowtype="modal"]').find(':focusable').last();

        Is there someone who has a good grasp of jQuery and Alpha who would be willing to collaborate with me on a solution?

        I would like to work one-on-one over Skype. If we can get it to work with modal forms, we may also be able to get it to work with panels.
        jQuery('div[a5panelnavisactive="true"]').find(':focusable').first();
        jQuery('div[a5panelnavisactive="true"]').find(':focusable').last();

        Are you interested?
        Last edited by Ben S.; 03-17-2018, 11:41 PM. Reason: improperly saved

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          #19
          Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

          I feel this is a wrong approach. You should not be able to tab out of a modal dialog into the parent background window. This is a bug in Alpha. They should fix it.

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            #20
            Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

            Bootstrap will close modal if user click or tap backdrop.

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              #21
              Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

              Agree with David, it's a nasty bug any way you read it: BUG - Bug bUg bug buG - stopping now my head's hurting.
              Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
              Albert Einstein, (attributed)
              US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                #22
                Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                Originally posted by Davidk View Post
                I feel this is a wrong approach. You should not be able to tab out of a modal dialog into the parent background window. This is a bug in Alpha. They should fix it.
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                  #23
                  Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                  Doesn't matter if it's a bug... Alpha doesn't want to deal with it. Can't make Alpha fix or test their stuff... that's what developers are for.

                  At least there is a workaround.

                  I tested jQuery .dialog as well and there is no escaping the modal popup by tabbing... it just cycles through everything that can get focus... but stays in the popup.

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                    #24
                    Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                    OK David - Have a good one.. signing off on this issue.
                    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
                    Albert Einstein, (attributed)
                    US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                      #25
                      Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                      Ok Pete... thanks for the heads up... and the input.

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                        #26
                        Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                        I looks like Alpha has addressed this issue in the pre-release today.

                        http://aadocuments.s3.amazonaws.com/...easeNotes.Html
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                        Alpha Anywhere v12.4.6.5.2 Build 8867-5691 IIS v10.0 on Windows Server 2019 Std in Hyper-V

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                          #27
                          Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                          The fix only half works. Tabbing forward you're stopped at the last control. Tabbing back (Shift-Tab) you're still tabbed out the modal window.

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                            #28
                            Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                            Originally posted by Davidk View Post
                            The fix only half works. Tabbing forward you're stopped at the last control. Tabbing back (Shift-Tab) you're still tabbed out the modal window.
                            Actually, I'm noticing that if you keep pressing the Tab key, you still end up outside the modal window too.
                            That's a bit disappointing.
                            Alpha Anywhere v12.4.6.5.2 Build 8867-5691 IIS v10.0 on Windows Server 2019 Std in Hyper-V

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                              #29
                              Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                              Originally posted by iRadiate View Post
                              Actually, I'm noticing that if you keep pressing the Tab key, you still end up outside the modal window too.
                              That's a bit disappointing.
                              I'm not seeing that. Pressing only the Tab key... I get stopped at the last control. My last control is a TextBox. I then added a Button as the last control... and Tabbing stopped there as well. So... it doesn't seem to depend on the Control Type.

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                                #30
                                Re: Warning that Modal Windows are not truly modal, and Panels have this issue too.

                                I'm working in a TabbedUI and calling a modal UX from a UX inside a TabbedUI pane.

                                If I keep hitting Tab several times after hitting the last tab stop, it does jump out to the TabbedUI and the UX inside the TabbedUI pane. I cannot activate any dropdown controls or click any buttons but I can enter data into text controls.

                                Perhaps, not normal behavior for a user do this, but still it's what I'm seeing. I'd rather see the Tab presses just wrap around to the first control again in the modal window.
                                Last edited by iRadiate; 06-24-2018, 03:55 PM.
                                Alpha Anywhere v12.4.6.5.2 Build 8867-5691 IIS v10.0 on Windows Server 2019 Std in Hyper-V

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