Alpha Software Mobile Development Tools:   Alpha Anywhere    |   Alpha TransForm subscribe to our YouTube Channel  Follow Us on LinkedIn  Follow Us on Twitter  Follow Us on Facebook

Announcement

Collapse

The Alpha Software Forum Participation Guidelines

The Alpha Software Forum is a free forum created for Alpha Software Developer Community to ask for help, exchange ideas, and share solutions. Alpha Software strives to create an environment where all members of the community can feel safe to participate. In order to ensure the Alpha Software Forum is a place where all feel welcome, forum participants are expected to behave as follows:
  • Be professional in your conduct
  • Be kind to others
  • Be constructive when giving feedback
  • Be open to new ideas and suggestions
  • Stay on topic


Be sure all comments and threads you post are respectful. Posts that contain any of the following content will be considered a violation of your agreement as a member of the Alpha Software Forum Community and will be moderated:
  • Spam.
  • Vulgar language.
  • Quotes from private conversations without permission, including pricing and other sales related discussions.
  • Personal attacks, insults, or subtle put-downs.
  • Harassment, bullying, threatening, mocking, shaming, or deriding anyone.
  • Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, or otherwise discriminatory jokes and language.
  • Sexually explicit or violent material, links, or language.
  • Pirated, hacked, or copyright-infringing material.
  • Encouraging of others to engage in the above behaviors.


If a thread or post is found to contain any of the content outlined above, a moderator may choose to take one of the following actions:
  • Remove the Post or Thread - the content is removed from the forum.
  • Place the User in Moderation - all posts and new threads must be approved by a moderator before they are posted.
  • Temporarily Ban the User - user is banned from forum for a period of time.
  • Permanently Ban the User - user is permanently banned from the forum.


Moderators may also rename posts and threads if they are too generic or do not property reflect the content.

Moderators may move threads if they have been posted in the incorrect forum.

Threads/Posts questioning specific moderator decisions or actions (such as "why was a user banned?") are not allowed and will be removed.

The owners of Alpha Software Corporation (Forum Owner) reserve the right to remove, edit, move, or close any thread for any reason; or ban any forum member without notice, reason, or explanation.

Community members are encouraged to click the "Report Post" icon in the lower left of a given post if they feel the post is in violation of the rules. This will alert the Moderators to take a look.

Alpha Software Corporation may amend the guidelines from time to time and may also vary the procedures it sets out where appropriate in a particular case. Your agreement to comply with the guidelines will be deemed agreement to any changes to it.



Bonus TIPS for Successful Posting

Try a Search First
It is highly recommended that a Search be done on your topic before posting, as many questions have been answered in prior posts. As with any search engine, the shorter the search term, the more "hits" will be returned, but the more specific the search term is, the greater the relevance of those "hits". Searching for "table" might well return every message on the board while "tablesum" would greatly restrict the number of messages returned.

When you do post
First, make sure you are posting your question in the correct forum. For example, if you post an issue regarding Desktop applications on the Mobile & Browser Applications board , not only will your question not be seen by the appropriate audience, it may also be removed or relocated.

The more detail you provide about your problem or question, the more likely someone is to understand your request and be able to help. A sample database with a minimum of records (and its support files, zipped together) will make it much easier to diagnose issues with your application. Screen shots of error messages are especially helpful.

When explaining how to reproduce your problem, please be as detailed as possible. Describe every step, click-by-click and keypress-by-keypress. Otherwise when others try to duplicate your problem, they may do something slightly different and end up with different results.

A note about attachments
You may only attach one file to each message. Attachment file size is limited to 2MB. If you need to include several files, you may do so by zipping them into a single archive.

If you forgot to attach your files to your post, please do NOT create a new thread. Instead, reply to your original message and attach the file there.

When attaching screen shots, it is best to attach an image file (.BMP, .JPG, .GIF, .PNG, etc.) or a zip file of several images, as opposed to a Word document containing the screen shots. Because Word documents are prone to viruses, many message board users will not open your Word file, therefore limiting their ability to help you.

Similarly, if you are uploading a zipped archive, you should simply create a .ZIP file and not a self-extracting .EXE as many users will not run your EXE file.
See more
See less

Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

    Sorry for the really basic question but I'm confused by this point. I'm a long time user of Alpha for desktop apps and would like to jump into building Android apps too. Using Alpha seems a logical place to start as opposed to Android Studio for instance. But I plan on distributing an Android app for use and I do not want users to have to acquire anything other than the app.

    I'm sure the answer to my question is either on this board or somewhere in Alpha's documentation but I'm not finding a real clear cut answer.

    Thank you,

    CP Good

    #2
    Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

    No end users DO NOT need anything from Alpha Software. You will need Alpha Software, and in my opinion your right - it's a great place to start. They make it very easy to build and deploy, and now with instant update, that is an even better concept that just updates your app when it loads rather than sending users to the app store or being bothered with the usual update process.
    NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

    Comment


      #3
      Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

      Doesn't it kinda depend upon what the app is doing?

      Comment


        #4
        Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

        Fair enough - it can't always be black and white with all of the options that are possible with AS. I should have said in many cases an end user does NOT need anything from AS, at least in a PGB you serve up.
        A much better answer would be found in asking you what kind of setup and situation you envision FIRST - then we can maybe help you decide if an end user would need to purchase anything.

        In the case of you developing for another who would want full ownership and control - they might have to purchase AS themselves and hire you.
        In the case of an app they HOST, same thing. Also, it would also depend on the URL your ajax callbacks might reference. In my case I am both the end user and the developer building an app for my industry - where others can login and see only their information. In this case, if I build a Phone Gap Application, my other end users do not need anything from AS - just like the web application I built. The end user can login and use the application and really has no idea about AS.

        So, if I were building another application, lets say like an insurance app for a customer, I would not use the same AS server to serve the application even though it can be done with IIS fairly easily. I would want it on its own server, and of course the database and maybe an amazon bucket of their own as well.

        So in short DK is right in so many ways here - I didn't mean to mislead you with such a short simple answer.
        Perhaps you should post more about what your doing to get a better answer. While things can be simple - there are enough options to get complicated quick!
        NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

        Comment


          #5
          Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

          And if you as a developer update the app in future you will need AA for sure. Check this Android developer Blog The interesting part is the requirement that the app targets recent Android Api level. This is also requirement for old apps getting updates (from November 2018)

          Comment


            #6
            Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

            CP Good,

            If you're talking about a database of course you will need to be running the Alpha web server.

            Even if your app is pure JavaScript I'm not sure it can start w/o checking in with the WAS first, since even an Alpha mobile app lives on an a5w page. Not sure about that since I've never built a mobile app that doesn't use a database. Or maybe a pure JS Phone Gap app will run regardless - as long as you don't need data on the server?
            Peter
            AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

            [email protected]
            https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


            Comment


              #7
              Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

              An Alpha Mobile app doesn't live in an a5w page... and doesn't need the Alpha Server... even if the App needs data.

              If you're talking about a Web App that can run on a mobile device... that's different... it's not a Mobile App... it's a Web App... which does require an A5W page and an Alpha Server.

              Comment


                #8
                Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

                Good to know. I've built disconnected PhoneGap apps but they read & write to the db using xbasic. They're disconnected, but then again they connect in order to upload/download. So if I were to delete the a5w page it wouldn't matter?
                Peter
                AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                [email protected]
                https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


                Comment


                  #9
                  Re: Once Developed and Published does an Android App still require Alpha Anywhere to Operate?

                  It would only matter if you want to run that UX from the Web (outside of PGB) via it's A5W page. The PGB UX talks directly to the published UX... and that published UX talks to the server.

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X