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    Hi All -

    Trying to set up a simple login component using a UX (not a traditional login component). Wondering how (and if) I can add functionality to allow a user to change his/her password and/or recover password. Basically, the same functionality that is offered in the login component.

    Thanks!
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    You won't find it. The UX offering is incomplete and overly complex for something that is a basic need of every system. Why not use the login component?
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    Default Re: Change Password and Recover Password UX Login

    If the login component does it why don't you find out how that's done and then use it within your the ux. I am on holiday will be back in office in 3 days will look at this then if you are unable to figure it out.
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    Why should anyone have to figure it out, its a foundation piece of any real system. It should just work as a rock solid component, just like the login component, nothing to figure out - just works. The UX offer is fine for login/Out and system level access credentials (groups etc), but that's where it ends.
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    I feel you on that one. Yes it would be good if it was a wizard option in the ux. When I investigate exactly how the login component is implement I will build a template for the ux along with providing this to alpha as a feature improvement
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    Default Re: Change Password and Recover Password UX Login

    The Login process you use depends entirely on your target application. If Web you can use either. If Mobile then you must use Integrated. Scott hasn't indicated what he's using this for or the version/build he's using.

    Although the UX Template using Persistent Login is flawed, it is a good starting point for Mobile.

    Alpha has provided only a partial Integrated Login solution (as usual) so you must code your own reset and recovery processes using the Context.Security methods.

    Agreed that this shouldn't be the case... but it is standard Alpha.

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    Yep.. time being spent on things ... other than the detail of foundation components as these don't generate revenue.
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    Default Re: Change Password and Recover Password UX Login

    For my tabbedUI desktop web browser app I started coding the project the way it was recommended in Alpha Five version 10.5 by the tutorials supplied at that time -- I used a login component placed onto an a5w page, an intermediate a5w page, two extra intermediate pages (that were required by design necessity in my app) and then the tabbedUI. I would give anything to go back and scrap that first Login component! It has been on my "to do" list since about the time Dialog2 was renamed to UX. It is nearly impossible to pick the login component apart to figure out what it is doing or to make it do extra things. (I did fix the hosting a5w page for the login component to include the mouseover events so the buttons appear just like other buttons in my app.) Just start with the UX and use the Context.Security methods that DavidK mentioned. I do not think it is that hard to use the simple building blocks that are there to make what you need. And if the a5w page that hosts your login UX remains the active page throughout the app or you redirect to a different a5w page after login, that is up to you and how that will work with your target environment.

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    IMO - you cannot use any of Alpha password recovery options out of the box because they let the user get their old password. New protocols are that the user has to reset their password, the previous password not allowed, AND the user goes through an email or mobile phone positive confirmation step to ensure the user owns the account.
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