Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

[KeithW]

Greetings All (Its been a long time for me visiting this resource)

Today's (Wed) webinar brought to a head something that I have once again thought about visiting but had not gotten in gear to do.

While it mainly is an issue for developers with multiple team members or larger customer bases, it is something that can benefit all
developers and I was asking about this back in 2006 (I believe).

What have you done about Source Code Version Control? Today's webcast brought a tool called Git & SourceTree which looks pretty good
for a start, what others are being deployed by developers here? I have already downloaded these to look at, would you recommend
another set of tools & why?

Additionally, I want to replace a small homegrown Issue Tracker. I have spent this afternoon searching the Inet and reading about a bunch of
them, however I have not found anything that really fits my desire. I would like a local application (expandable to a web-based) solution
that would allow unlimited (or at least 5-10) projects to start for 2 -3 users, preferably in the free to very inexpensive range to see if it does
things in a way I can live with. Most free ones allow for a single user and very limited or a single project only. Has anyone come across or
is using one that meets these goals? If it can link into Git or another Source Control System that would be a big plus but not a total deal-
breaker either.

Wish Alpha Software was farther along with what they were doing or going to be doing in the Source Control world so as to know that I
wasn't heading out into deep water, needlessly.

Regards,
Keith

[DaveM]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

I believe you can find it in softaculous. They download by way of cpanel or others. I know I found one on cpanel by searching softaculous downloads a short time ago. It was for myltiple users, web based and multiple projects. Can't remember the name off the top. Pretty sure it was free too.
Almost positive alpha has none.

MYTeam (Manage Your Team) is an extremely powerful project management tool, and it's easy to use for both administrators and end-users with a really intuitive structure.

It's a free open source task management and project management system, based on Yii Framework, easy to use and with a great perspective of growth for the future. You can create one or more Projects and manage several types of Tasks for each one. You can also create and manage Timesheet hours.

Myt can send email notifications based on some events, such as Task assignments and Project associations. All features are configurable from the Administration Panel.

Manage Your Team is released under the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial License V2.0.

another:

qdPM is a free web-based project management tool suitable for a small team working on multiple projects.

It is fully configurable. You can easy manage Projects, Tasks and People.

Customers interact using a Ticket System that is integrated into Task management.

qdPM is released under the GNU General Public License .

[KeithW]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

Dave,

Can you provide links to "Manage Your Team"? I have not been successful in locating it.

Thanx,
Keith

[KeithW]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

I want to expand a little bit on what I am trying to do.

I want to implement Source Code Revision Control... Git looks very promising, there are some others but I want keep something simple with a Windows Interface, whether it hooks into Windows Explorer or standalone is not a big issue either way. I would like it to support 3 - 5 users on a behind-the-firewall installation to start with so that it does not initially have a quantity or projects limitation OR up-charges for additional projects like *most* of the web based services do. I would like to be able to expand in the future to a web based service once it is justifiable but NOT as an initial implementation.

I have read a bit on GiT & GiTServer, SVNclients & Server & TFSexpress (by Microsoft) that allows Gitclients and is free for up to 5 developers, has anyone actually set up a development environment for a small developer team of 5 or less with any of these tools?


For the Issue/Big Tracking, the same parameters apply... I have had a harder time finding some good Tracking Systems, MantisBT looks like it has potential but most do not configure behind-the-firewall even in stripped down installations or require putting up IIS, etc in order to run them. All additional overhead, configuration, management that I am trying to avoid at all possible costs at this point in time.

I would have to believe that somewhere in our community, someone has already done something like this...

Additional Benefits would be Issue/Bug Tracking able to interface with Source Control, GiT, etc so that build/release data can update the Tracking System.

Back in the '90s I used, CVS, RCS & Razor but the initial weight & costs are too heavy to start with for this project.

Thanx,
Keith

[DaveM]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

Giyhub is great!
The others I mentioned becaused I looked at them in my cpanel for my hosted sites. google softaculous or look at your cpanel(equivalent) They should be there.

[KeithW]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

Giyhub is great!
The others I mentioned becaused I looked at them in my cpanel for my hosted sites. google softaculous or look at your cpanel(equivalent) They should be there.

I found Softaculous, many, many pieces... initial appearance is a ton of research is required to determine what would work for me. Saving that for if a simpler implementation does not make an appearance.

I found "qdPM" and read up on it. The one I cannot find at all is "MyTeam - Manage Your Team" which is why I asked earlier if you could point me in a direction for it... googling has not done it for me.

Thanx,
Keith

[DaveM]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

https://www.manageyourteam.net/
I have not used this myself.

[KeithW]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

Dave,

Thanx, a quick look at ManageMyTeam seems to suggest that it is not really designed with any kind of typical computer programming bug tracking support.

Keith

[Davidk]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

This type of stuff has been discussed many times in this forum... including posts by the original poster of this thread many years ago.

Here is the latest thread... which again... didn't really go anywhere.
https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...source+control

Apart from Bug Tracking, which would be an easy process to create, Revision and Source control are not concepts that Alpha lends itself to.

[KeithW]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

This type of stuff has been discussed many times in this forum... including posts by the original poster of this thread many years ago.

Here is the latest thread... which again... didn't really go anywhere.
https://www.alphasoftware.com/alphaf...source+control

Apart from Bug Tracking, which would be an easy process to create, Revision and Source control are not concepts that Alpha lends itself to.

Thanx for the link Dave. Despite terms I had used to search the KB (forum) this thread had not popped up for me.

[RichCPT]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

... Revision and Source control are not concepts that Alpha lends itself to...

David,
Do you mean because the components in Alpha are not stored as simple programming code, but are rather stored as massive files with property value pairs and the order of these properties can be scrambled around by AA, I think by just resaving the component, which makes it very difficult to compare two source files?

All,
One thing I cannot understand about all the source control (SC) products out there, is this concept of moving towards distributed source code control. They let everyone have their own copy of a source control database and they let individuals check things in and out locally. They do not prevent users from working on same source module simultaneously. They just detect conflicts after the fact - when users try to upload changes from local SC to the master SC. The providers of distributed SC seem to think one can use a comparison utility to compare changes between multiple versions of a file and merge the changes together. It maybe a bit tedious to do when working with line oriented source files (like C++ or JavaScript files), but it is certainly possible. But when working with property based files that can have their property value paris completely re-ordered just by saving the file, argh : - (

[Davidk]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

Yes... the way that Alpha is built... you could not, with current tools, check components out and back in... and create a master component by merging multiple changed components... or merge changes from even a single component. You could check out and lock... and then check in, overwrite, and unlock.

[alexc]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

I use git with github and assembla for bug tracking /workload. Though communication is key. My teams keep a Google sheet and will update who's working on what avoiding the same component being edited. Giving responsible of each component to a person.

[Jay Talbott]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

We are offering a web-based bug reporting system on the IADN store.
https://iadn.com/store.a5w

Here is a short video regarding the app:
http://www.screencast.com/t/VuoKKC4DdX

[Ted Giles]

Re: Revision (Source) Control & Issue (Bug) Tracking

https://www.flyspray.org/
It's free and used in some UK government establishments.

As for version control, I'm working on a project with at least 4 developers. We have a check in/check out embedded in the application together with Change Control documentation.