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    Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

    I am going to post the most annoying behavior lately from Alpha 5 here and then post other stupid error messages in a separate post. So, here goes with the #1 Annoyance:

    Because of the #2 Annoyance (described separately) in my application, I went into the operations tab to create a totally new import operation that I could access from a script. I also follow this one up with an append operation. Basically, in the times past, Excel 2007 I think it was, would of allowed you to create a DBF file directly from within Excel itself. When we started with 2010, this feature of Excel went away so I had to divide my operation into an import first from an XLSX file created by Excel 2010 and then do a separate append operation once the dbf file was created. Ok, so that worked as long as we were on Windows 7 and Excel 2010.

    Now here we are with Excel 2016 running on Windows 10. We had previously updated from Alpha 5 v10.5 to Alpha 5 v11, avoiding the Alpha Anywhere product because of the extremely high cost of Alpha anywhere. So, when my old import operation refused to work because of part of the #2 annoyance, I started from scratch and used xls instead of xlsx, because xlsx now refuses to work when created from Excel 2016. When I run the import operation, I start getting dialogue boxes with the message "Table Not Found" ..Local\Temp\xyz.dbf, 0 records will be imported. Then, you click ok, then it runs the operation. Why does it insist on looking first in my app\local folder for this dbf file in the first place and giving me this idiot message about 0 records being importing, and then it imports it from where it is supposed to after you click ok. I am trying to eliminate all the idiot messages because I don't want my user seeing confusing dialogues like this. So how do I stop this behavior?


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    Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

    All imports to existing tables consist of in import to temporary table followed by an append (from that temp table) to the destination table. If you want to verify just view the xbasic of any import operation you have that imports to an existing table.

    Why does it insist on looking first in my app\local folder for this dbf file
    Alpha is looking there for the temporary table from which to append to the destination. As to why that is failing is hard to say. View the xbasic behind the operation and see where Alpha expects the temp table to be and verify that the location exists.
    There can be only one.

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      #3
      Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

      Originally posted by Stan Mathews View Post
      All imports to existing tables consist of in import to temporary table followed by an append (from that temp table) to the destination table. If you want to verify just view the xbasic of any import operation you have that imports to an existing table.


      Alpha is looking there for the temporary table from which to append to the destination. As to why that is failing is hard to say. View the xbasic behind the operation and see where Alpha expects the temp table to be and verify that the location exists.

      That is interesting Stan. Can you tell me how exactly I find the xbasic code for the import operation? While I am waiting on your response, I will google it, but it will probably be faster if you see this in time.

      Thanks,


      Bruce

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        #4
        Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

        Oh never mind Stan, I found the XB in blue right beside the run icon, and the xbasic came right up. I learned something new about Alpha 5 today. Thank you

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          #5
          Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

          Then let's tack something on. When you see the xbasic notice that you can copy to clipboard or save as script. Imagine the possibilities.....
          There can be only one.

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            #6
            Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

            I am also getting a lot of "Out of Memory" or "Read past end of file" messages lately as well. The one I got right at 5 was an "Out of Memory". I don't think that really means that, so what else could it be when I get that one?

            Thanks,


            Bruce

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              #7
              Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

              Alpha can report an out of memory error when trying to import an Excel file that is a later version than supported by the type of import routine chosen. So if you have an .xlsx named as .xls and try the classic import operation, no go.
              There can be only one.

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                Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

                When we were discussing looking at the Xbasic script for the import, what I discovered in part were these two lines:

                import.file = "\\fstyler\revenue\kathy\nmtaxtoa5.xls"
                import.db = "\\fstyler\revenue\kathy\nmtaxtoa5_temp_table.dbf"

                \\fstyler is obviously a network location. I don't see it create the nmtaxtoa5_temp_table.dbf at all.

                However, the actual error message has to do with a message saying the table is not found in my user\AppData\Local\temp folder, from my hard drive. It needs to quit worrying about that, because I am not saving this file to a dbf on my hard disk. I am working totally off a network location because I am not the main user, another person is. So, I decided to run all this activity through the network folder because as a person who deals with this particular user's application since I created the application, I cannot access her hard disk files from my computer based on our company sharing policies.

                Is there a way to get this message to go away given this scenario?

                Thanks,


                Bruce

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                  #9
                  Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

                  I noticed you haven't tried what I suggested in your other thread about setting the file as new instead of existing - did you try it?
                  Robin

                  Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                    #10
                    Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

                    Originally posted by MoGrace View Post
                    I noticed you haven't tried what I suggested in your other thread about setting the file as new instead of existing - did you try it?

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                      #11
                      Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

                      Yes I did try it with a little success as I recall. Haven’t worked with it any since the day of my post.

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                        Re: Alpha 5 V11 acting stupid; seemingly after Windows 10/Office 2016 Installation

                        MS-Excel V3.0,V4.0,2003,2007,2010 (*.xls;*.xlsx)
                        These are the allowable ones.
                        Suggest that you save the Excel sheet in V4 and try it.

                        When you create the Import Operation using the Genie, are you able to set the following correctly?;
                        No Field Names
                        Import File location
                        Result Table
                        Select the Field names

                        If you are running this on your machine using network drives you have access to, you should see the results in your V11 Workspace Tables.
                        If you are attempting to run it using someone else's network drive to which you don't have access, you may fail.

                        Can you let us know if this application is a Runtime/Shadowed/local installation please.
                        See our Hybrid Option here;
                        https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                        Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                        You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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