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Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

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    Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

    HI,
    I built a desktop application and packaged it up. Now if I send it to a potential client as a demo to install on the clients machine it installs the run-time, but as that run-time installs it has all the information as to how the application was developed, where to go for more information, phone, etc.

    Now after install there is an Alpha shortcut along with my application shortcut.

    Am I missing the boat here and doing something wrong?
    I tried the .exe file from runtime install on my development machine, but I got missing file messages and it did not start.

    Now if this is normal and I am doing this right then the client could say I can have my IT guy maybe build applications like this and maybe I can use parts of demo to jump start application? Even if it can't be used, it sends message that easy development is available and that's what Alpha is all about.

    Now other than the compiled code to AEX, the tables and forms all seem to be there and as a client I could go buy Alpha Anywhere and use tables and forms, I am guessing unless you encrypt them maybe.
    I haven't looked to see what you can do with application install and the name of the tables, sets, etc.

    I'm new here, so is the potential client installing demo supposed to see the run-time install information?
    Can that be hidden?
    Do I need to drop back versions to achieve this as I am just doing desktop application at this time?

    I hide everything on application so it says nothing about Alpha Software and does not show loading screen, but the run-time installing says it all. Why bother hiding the details in your application if this is the case?

    If you click and look at file details of the run-time it has a digital signature and Alpha details there too even though you change its name.

    If I am going to spend time learning code, then maybe there's another way that is better in a rapid application development package.

    I guess that is the pitfall with Alpha if this has to be displayed to the end user.

    I was told when I bought the run-time that you can hide everything so the end user does not know how you built the application and at this moment I don't see that is true.

    Thank you for any comments to this is it and that is the case.
    Last edited by datacaster; 06-21-2018, 01:56 PM.
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    Re: Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

    Password protect everything.
    Hide the Control Panel
    Hide the Windows bar
    Then, no one can easily edit your stuff, even when using the app startup bypass routine and their own copy but they can see it and use it.
    Also, suggest you put in a robust EULA addressing IPR for the app which need to be clicked before it will run.
    See our Hybrid Option here;
    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

    Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
    You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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      #3
      Re: Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

      Thank you Ted for your words of wisdom.

      Paul

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        #4
        Re: Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

        find the command line options for starting alpha like -nosplash and -title =""


        They are in the help files.
        Dave Mason
        [email protected]
        Skype is dave.mason46

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          Re: Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

          Originally posted by datacaster View Post
          I was told when I bought the run-time that you can hide everything so the end user does not know how you built the application and at this moment I don't see that is true.

          Thank you for any comments to this is it and that is the case.

          Because you have to use Alphas own runtime installer this is for sure not the case. User will see that you are actually installing Alpha Anywhere runtime product. Also every time you use Alphas runtime installer( and you have no other option) it checks your license for AA runtime. So if any errors client will see them (AA runtime error messages).

          So you are actually installing a solution for AA runtime not an own application I would say.

          edit: when I did say AA runtime will check license I mean it will check it from Alphas license server
          Last edited by kkfin; 06-25-2018, 02:14 PM.

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            Re: Runtime install question to what am I missing here in hiding details?

            You do not HAVE to use alpha's runtime installer, although it is much easier. I use astrum installer to package an alredy deployed runtime on drive C:\ locally. Then use astrum to register all the needed files and install the couple .ese's in the runtime similar to what they do with Wise installer. Clients never see the alpha name that way.

            I also create a startup exe to run alpha, so the end user does not ever need to use alpha5.exe for anything. All they would normally have to do is look at the startup link to see where and what.
            Dave Mason
            [email protected]
            Skype is dave.mason46

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