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    #1

    Security Front End

    Can you create a front end that goes into Alpha's Security Table, so that he can add, edit or delete users and groups..
    The client doesn't want to use developer to do security, he wants to do it right from the application.

    THanks
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    #2
    Re: Security Front End

    Jessica, suggest you start with https://www.alphasoftware.com/docume...rity/index.xml

    You don't need developer to set this up or make changes. FYI we've just set up security for about 300 desktop installations following the implementation of GDPR in the UK.

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      #3
      Re: Security Front End

      Jon,
      I'm feeling dumb on this one as I see all the parts where you initially setup users and groups, and after that setup I see security for tables forms, etc, but I do not see how you start out to create the runtime portion to allow the creation of users and passwords in a table and to be able to call that you setup in developer.

      I setup master password for administrator (user group) and a user that has admin rights. I export it and say setup also security log and I do not see a table or anything to create the part that the admin would add user and passwords.

      I guess I am missing any documents that get to that part as I have searched and searched and all I found is what you linked to.
      I'm lost I guess and ignorant to a large part of this.

      Paul

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        #4
        Re: Security Front End

        Jessica, if your customer can see the control panel when the application is running, he can go to 'tools, security' to manage the users & rights.

        I'm sure there's a way to get the required code onto a button, but can't find it right now.

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          #5
          Re: Security Front End

          Originally posted by datacaster View Post
          Jon,
          I'm feeling dumb on this one as I see all the parts where you initially setup users and groups, and after that setup I see security for tables forms, etc, but I do not see how you start out to create the runtime portion to allow the creation of users and passwords in a table and to be able to call that you setup in developer.

          I setup master password for administrator (user group) and a user that has admin rights. I export it and say setup also security log and I do not see a table or anything to create the part that the admin would add user and passwords.

          I guess I am missing any documents that get to that part as I have searched and searched and all I found is what you linked to.
          I'm lost I guess and ignorant to a large part of this.

          Paul
          I'm not well versed in the security setup but security wouldn't be very secure if the users and passwords were stored in a simple table. The runtime admin should have access to a button which executes

          A5_Security_Option("Define Users and Groups")
          There can be only one.

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            #6
            Re: Security Front End

            I knew it was possible, got thrown off course as the path shows 'Reference - API - Functions - Web' if you do a search of the wiki.

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              #7
              Re: Security Front End

              That's how it works! Just tried it and now I see what the menu has and can hopefully run from there!

              Thanks Stan!

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                #8
                Re: Security Front End

                Stan or anyone,
                I can't find any commands for desktop app that when you have user groups defined like employees (users) and managers (users & administrator), but I don't see what code I can use like above for creating users and groups that says only this user can use this function, or do I have to have scripts for users to call specific forms where employee can only view records, and managers see a form that has record edit/enter new record buttons along with navigation buttons?

                Thank you,
                Paul

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                  #9
                  Re: Security Front End

                  I think you are asking how to implement the security once the users and groups have been set up? For each layout you can right click on its name in the control panel and choose Set Security (or right click in whitespace for all of the layout type). This allows you to control the delete, design, run permissions for the form. Within the form you can test for the current user or group in any event code and proceed accordingly. You can use A5_change_permission() for finer grained control.
                  There can be only one.

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                    #10
                    Re: Security Front End

                    Hi Stan,
                    Now that I have a clearer picture, what I am hoping for is a way for the (administrative user) to click a button on a form in an application to do the same thing as clicking the selection set security in the control panel. Something that is a statement like a5_security_option("DefineUsersandGroups") that brings up the little window that would be in this picture and they click add and their groups appear that they created and they set the access to the form.

                    security.jpg

                    I am dreaming, I guess?

                    Thank you for your help here!

                    Paul

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                      #11
                      Re: Security Front End

                      So what I sent you didn't work?
                      I don't seem to have received any bug or issue details.
                      If you need a walk through the process, please contact me.
                      It definitely does what you requested.
                      See our Hybrid Option here;
                      https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                      Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                      You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                        #12
                        Re: Security Front End

                        I actually started this post I believe before you sent what you have done to me.
                        All works, but maybe I am missing one thing?
                        Actually I guess I have to think on how a user (the owner) can set each forms access based upon group if I am not missing something that you did.

                        If I have an application with all forms default grant access and the owner creates several groups like Managers and employees from what I see they cannot setup security for each form from the forms.
                        If I go to control panel I can set security and choose groups that can access the form, but end user does not have control panel access, so I am not seeing method to do that.
                        In your program you can create users and groups, but it appears they have access to all forms except create users and groups function or I am missing something.

                        Thank you,
                        Paul

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                          #13
                          Re: Security Front End

                          Please see the scripts I sent by email and a few options.
                          You can create the Grant/Deny for forms and processes without allowing access to the CP and restrict access to the form which handles it.
                          The scripts are super simple.
                          Any issues, mail me.
                          See our Hybrid Option here;
                          https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                          Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                          You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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                            #14
                            Re: Security Front End

                            Well I feel so stupid!
                            You can actually add what I wanted above from action scripting.
                            DAH!

                            Thanks everyone!

                            Paul

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                              #15
                              Re: Security Front End

                              There is no such thing as a silly question.
                              (But they are usually easy to answer)
                              Just make sure that only Admin can run the scipts.
                              See our Hybrid Option here;
                              https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

                              Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
                              You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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