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    WAS & "services" question

    Good morning,

    Is it true that if our SQL server crashes, and is then restored without restarting via its "services", that in order to access any WAS application, the WAS would need to be manually restarted?

    I'm very new to the WAS, and to anything having to do with servers - so I'm even having a difficult time just in figuring out how to word my questions. I hope my question today makes sense...

    In other words, how do I get the WAS to be in the SQL server "services"?

    Thank you,
    Wanda

    #2
    RE: WAS &

    The Web Application Server does not run as a Windows service, it is a user-mode application

    Lenny Forziati
    Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
    Alpha Software Corporation

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      #3
      RE: WAS &

      Hi Lenny,

      Does that mean that in order to be able to be free from having to restart the WAS after a crash, for instance, that we would need to be utilizing an outside host? (Firm Support, A5 OnLine, etc.)

      Wanda

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        #4
        RE: WAS &

        What type of crash are you referring to?

        If SQL Server crashes, the Web App Server will just keep running. Your pages may generate error messages saying something like the SQL Server cannot be reached.

        If Windows crashes/reboots, the Web App Server will not start until someone logs in and starts it. However Windows can be configured to automatically log in and you could have a shortcut to the Web App Server in your startup group.

        Lenny Forziati
        Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
        Alpha Software Corporation

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          #5
          RE: WAS &

          Hi Lenny,

          Thank you for visiting this thread, again. You wrote,

          "However Windows can be configured to automatically log in and you could have a shortcut to the Web App Server in your startup group."

          If this is done, would the Web App Server automatically start? Or, would someone need to click on the icon?

          Thank you,
          Wanda

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            #6
            RE: WAS &

            Wanda,
            You have to configure both Windows and Alpha Five.

            1) For Alpha Five:
            You have to set Alpha Five to start WAS when Alpha Five starts. You do this by choosing Tools, Web Application Server, and then check the box that indicates WAS should start when A5 starts.
            Then on the News/Databases welcome screen, uncheck the box that says "Show this at startup".
            2) For Windows:
            choose Start, Run, then type
            control userpasswords2
            Uncheck the box that says "Users must enter a password to use this computer". Click on Apply.
            Then when prompted enter the name and password of a default user for the computer. Click on OK.

            3) Then navigate to My Computer\c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

            Then do File, New, Shortcut, and create a new shortcut that points to c:\program files\a5v6\alpha5.exe

            4) Next time you start up your computer, A5v6 will start automatically along with WAS.

            - Peter

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              #7
              RE: WAS &

              Hi Peter,

              Thank you. I think I'm not being clear enough, however. My IT Manager is concerned about how to get the WAS to automatically restart when the server, for instance, loses its power, then regains power and automatically starts. We need the WAS to automatically start, as well.

              If we have a power outage when no one is here to restart the WAS when the server starts, then we're in deep doo-doo.

              I'm trying to find a work around so that no-one has to physically turn on a computer/restart the WAS.

              The server the WAS will be on is either an IIS (ISS?!) or a MySQL. I know nothing about servers, so I may not be making this clear enough due to ignorance.

              Any ideas on a work-around?

              Thank you,
              Wanda

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                #8
                RE: WAS &

                Peter's instructions above resolve your problem Wanda, as soon as the computer is powered on and finished booting, Windows will automatically log you in and start the Web App Server.

                -Lenny

                Lenny Forziati
                Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                Alpha Software Corporation

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                  #9
                  RE: WAS &

                  Way cool!!! Thanks for clarifying. It just goes to show just how much I have to learn.

                  This really makes my day and will thoroughly please the IT Manager. I sincerely appreciate your responses Lenny and Peter :)

                  Wanda

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                    #10
                    What operating system(s) can be configured with these instructions?

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                      #11
                      Peter Wayne's original information has been documented in Automatically Restarting the Web Application Server. The topic contains links that will show you how to configure different types of Windows operating systems.

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                        #12
                        Wanda,

                        If your server contain important information, then you should not allow it to automatically log in on reboot. I don't actually think it appropriate that anyone send you in that direction - I know I can't let any of my office computers automatically log in. Until WAS does operate as a service (I've heard it will eventually), you can use one of the several 3rd party software apps that can run any software as a service. Here are two that I found:

                        http://www.activeplus.com/us/products/smill/
                        http://www.eltima.com/products/application-as-service/

                        Personally, I manually log in every time the server reboots, which is infrequent.
                        Steve Wood
                        See my profile on IADN

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