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    #1

    A5W Page with web frames

    Is it possible to create an A5W page with web frames. I wanted to have a frame to the left of the screen and put some choices/hyperlinks there, and use the main (right) part of the screen for the data forms.

    I did try to create a web page in dreamweaver using frames but when i pasted it into the freeform section of Alpha, it seems to ignore the frame setting and give me a standard page.
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    RE: A5W Page with web frames

    Farmes are fine, but our HTML Editor does not support them so you cannot create them in Alpha itself. Creating them in Dreamweaver should be just fine though. Just paste them into the freeform section on the source tab instead of WYSIWYG

    Lenny Forziati
    Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
    Alpha Software Corporation

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      #3
      RE: A5W Page with web frames

      I cant seem to get this right. Ihave built the frames within Dreamweaver and imported them to Alpha. I can now see the htm files and run it, but i cant seem to get the search grid to work. I will assume its due to html and perhaps should be a a5w page. So i renamed the htm to a5w, it opens the html bit but still no grid.

      Has anyone done this??

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        #4
        I'd like to bump this post. I also just tried copy-pasting frameset html from FrontPage to the freeform area of an A5W page, and it essentially wipes out all of the code. Meaning, after I past <frameset rows="64,*">... anywhere on the page (or appropriately below </head> tag), and go to WYSIWYG, and back to Source, ALL code is missing.

        Lenny, is there a trick to this? By 'freeform' below, do you mean the Source Tab on the A5W page?

        And, would I want to create an HTML page or an A5W page with the frameset code (remembering that a frameset does not have a <body> section).

        Here is my full dummy frameset code:
        HTML Code:
        <FRAMESET cols="20%, 80%">
  <FRAMESET rows="100, 200">
      <FRAME src="contents_of_frame1.html">
      <FRAME src="contents_of_frame2.gif">
  </FRAMESET>
  <FRAME src="contents_of_frame3.html">
  <NOFRAMES>
      <P>This frameset document contains:
      <UL>
         <LI><A href="contents_of_frame1.html">Some neat contents</A>
         <LI><IMG src="contents_of_frame2.gif" alt="A neat image">
         <LI><A href="contents_of_frame3.html">Some other neat contents</A>
      </UL>
  </NOFRAMES>
</FRAMESET>
        Last edited by AaronBBrown; 01-06-2006, 10:20 AM.
        Steve Wood
        See my profile on IADN

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          #5
          Steve: I added [html][/html] tags around your html code to make it prettier :)
          Aaron Brown
          Alpha Software Development Team

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            #6
            Because the editor does not support frames, it will choke on the syntax if you switch to WYSIWYG mode, you have to stay in source mode. Your frameset page can be either .A5W or .HTML, but if you don't need any Xbasic code in there, it is more efficient to give it a .html extension.

            Originally posted by Steve Wood
            I'd like to bump this post. I also just tried copy-pasting frameset html from FrontPage to the freeform area of an A5W page, and it essentially wipes out all of the code. Meaning, after I past <frameset rows="64,*">... anywhere on the page (or appropriately below </head> tag), and go to WYSIWYG, and back to Source, ALL code is missing.

            Lenny, is there a trick to this? By 'freeform' below, do you mean the Source Tab on the A5W page?

            And, would I want to create an HTML page or an A5W page with the frameset code (remembering that a frameset does not have a <body> section).

            Here is my full dummy frameset code:
            HTML Code:
            <FRAMESET cols="20%, 80%">
  <FRAMESET rows="100, 200">
      <FRAME src="contents_of_frame1.html">
      <FRAME src="contents_of_frame2.gif">
  </FRAMESET>
  <FRAME src="contents_of_frame3.html">
  <NOFRAMES>
      <P>This frameset document contains:
      <UL>
         <LI><A href="contents_of_frame1.html">Some neat contents</A>
         <LI><IMG src="contents_of_frame2.gif" alt="A neat image">
         <LI><A href="contents_of_frame3.html">Some other neat contents</A>
      </UL>
  </NOFRAMES>
</FRAMESET>

            Lenny Forziati
            Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
            Alpha Software Corporation

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              #7
              OK, that worked very nice. Since the standard A5 editor always opens in WYSIWIG, I used Open With / Notepad and named my file uniquely to remind me NEVER to open it with the standard tool.

              After a few hours reading on html for framesets, I should be able to deploy.
              Steve Wood
              See my profile on IADN

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                #8
                You can also set the preference under View->Settings to have the HTML Editor open in Source instead.

                Originally posted by Steve Wood
                OK, that worked very nice. Since the standard A5 editor always opens in WYSIWIG, I used Open With / Notepad and named my file uniquely to remind me NEVER to open it with the standard tool.

                After a few hours reading on html for framesets, I should be able to deploy.

                Lenny Forziati
                Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                Alpha Software Corporation

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                  #9
                  Oops, sorry, that's a V7 feature, I forgot where I was posting.

                  Originally posted by Lenny Forziati
                  You can also set the preference under View->Settings to have the HTML Editor open in Source instead.

                  Lenny Forziati
                  Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                  Alpha Software Corporation

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                    #10
                    Yes, you can use frames with the web server. However, you put the pages within the frames. You can't put a frame in a component. However, the page with the frame construction can be either an .htm or .a5w page.

                    Here is the complete source code for a main page that contains other pages within frames. This page works saved as .htm or .a5w and was created with Dreamweaver.

                    HTML Code:
                    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-frameset.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>MD Office Track</title>
</head>

<frameset rows="110,*" cols="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="yes" border="2" bordercolor="#0000CC">
  <frame src="topmain.htm" name="topFrame" frameborder="yes" scrolling="No" bordercolor="#0000CC" id="topFrame" title="topFrame" />
  <frameset rows="*" cols="140,*" framespacing="0" frameborder="no" border="0" bordercolor="#0000CC">
    <frame src="leftmain.htm" name="leftFrame" frameborder="no" scrolling="No" noresize="NORESIZE" id="leftFrame" title="leftFrame" />
    <frame src="dashboard.a5w" name="mainFrame" id="mainFrame" title="mainFrame" />
  </frameset>
</frameset>
<noframes><body>
</body>
</noframes></html>
                    Note that there are three sections to the frame set and each contains a different page. The top frame, named "TopFrame" has the page "topmain.htm". The left frame, "leftFrame", has the page "leftmain.htm" The main section uses a a5w page. Each of these pages are designed individually and could be run as a standalone page or included in this frame set. Once the framest page is designed, the only reason to edit it would be to change the initial pages loaded.

                    In this situation, one of the htm pages has navigation to change the page within the main frame. Here is how that is done in the navigation

                    HTML Code:
                    <a href="Visitlist.a5w" target="mainFrame">Visits</a>
                    Notice you must supply the target to open the new page within the correct frame. If you don't, it will open in the frame that contains the link.

                    Although it is becoming more rare, there are still some browsers that don't support frames. In that case, you would want to supply something within the <body> section after <noframes>. It could just be a simple line of text to tell the user that frames are not supported in their browser.
                    Last edited by AaronBBrown; 01-06-2006, 01:47 PM.

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                      #11
                      Thanks Jerry,

                      I see now that you are at a significant advantage writing your pages from the code level up. You know what is happening under the pretty A5 wrapper and can tie it together much easier. I did all that you suggest, just before getting your post. I am missing some vital knowledge (html, xml, etc.), but I am quick to find, study and apply examples.

                      I've attached the results, still in draft form.

                      Lenny - its v7. I tagged on to a v6 post and did not notice.
                      Last edited by Steve Wood; 08-15-2006, 02:21 AM.
                      Steve Wood
                      See my profile on IADN

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                        #12
                        Re: A5W Page with web frames

                        I copied Lenny's code verbatim and pasted it into the source area of an HTML page. I executed it (got a lot of not founds) but at least it showed me that it was breaking up the page into areas.

                        But, just for grins, I saved it and re-opened it. Looked at the source tab. All of the frame code was gone.

                        Anybody know what's going on with that?

                        a5v7 by the way.

                        the following is what was there after the save and reopen. I'm probably doing something really dumb but I'm lost with this.

                        <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
                        <html><head><title></title>
                        <meta http-equiv=Content-type content="text/html; charset=unicode">
                        <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></head>
                        <body>
                        <p>&nbsp;</p></body></html>

                        Steve

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                          #13
                          Re: A5W Page with web frames

                          Lenny explained this in his post on 01-06-2006, 06:25A.

                          The A5 editor does not recognize some HTML and it blows it away.
                          Steve Wood
                          See my profile on IADN

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                            #14
                            Re: A5W Page with web frames

                            Thanks for the response Steve.

                            ah, so it wasn't me. And now I understand what was said before about using a different editor. That's a little dicey though since if one forgets and loads the html page into the a5 editor sometime down the road and saves it, well, the result is a little less than good.

                            I would suspect that is being addressed in an upcoming release? And, is there a list of other function types that have the same effect on the a5 editor?

                            The only reason I ask that is I read somewhere that the use of tables to chop up a page into areas/regions was slower than frames, so I was testing that out which is how I got here.

                            Oh hell. Now I get it. It actually choked on the open because that comes up in WYSIWYG mode. Tricky. And I did misread the previous post. Thanks again.
                            Last edited by SteveHanson; 09-29-2006, 07:15 AM.

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                              #15
                              Re: A5W Page with web frames

                              One last thing and then I'll shut up. :)

                              If you actually open a page containing frameset in WYSIWYG mode, as long as you don't save it you're ok, apparently. I set the preference to open in source code and everything is fine. I set it back to WYSIWYG and as you said, that's where the problem is. When I switched over to source, my code was gone. BUT, if I just close it, it doesn't ask me if I want to save. Very interesting.
                              If I set it to open in source mode, everthing is still there. If I select the WYSIWYG tab, well, then it all goes away and I'm staring at some default source. BUT, once again, if I then close the page it doesn't ask me to save it, meaning I suppose, it doesn't realize anything has changed. Opening it once again in source mode, everything is still fine.
                              So, I guess it's not as dicey as I thought. When in doubt, close it and reopen it and don't save it if anything looks goofy.
                              It'll be nice when this stuff is upgraded. But at least now I can still test with framesets and see how that stuff works.

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