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    #1

    More about menus

    How would I have a custom menu-bar displaying if all forms in an application are closed? As I understand it, custom-built menu bars have to be attached to a form.

    Any ideas? Thanks.

    Martin.
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    #2
    RE: More about menus

    Martin, unless you're going to give your use access the control panel, I think at least one form must be active at all times. -- tom

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      #3
      RE: More about menus

      So you can't use a menu bar as a sort of Main Menu, where someone can start from. They have to already be in an option?

      M.

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        #4
        RE: More about menus

        So you can't use a menu bar as a sort of Main Menu, where someone can start from. They have to already be in an option?

        M.

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          #5
          RE: More about menus

          Oops, don't know how that happened...

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            #6
            RE: More about menus

            Martin, such a thing might be possible in Version 5, using an xdialog window that's not tied to a table. However, in vers 4 I'm pretty sure that there are no free floating menubars.

            Just out of curiosity, what would you display below the menu which could not be done with a form?

            -- tom

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              #7
              RE: More about menus

              Alpha 5V5 even has an example of using a toolbar as a menu by docking it on the side. It is included as part of the Alpha Sports sample. I don't think this can be done in earlier versions.

              Jerry

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                #8
                RE: More about menus

                Nothing, Tom, it was only for cosmetic reasons - most (but by no means all) Windows apps. tend to use the menu bar to navigate. Thanks, both, for clarifying.

                MW.

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                  #9
                  RE: More about menus

                  Martin

                  Why not create a blank form with no objects? Since a menu is normally tied to a form, there is nothing to prevent using a blank form. Most developers have a dedicated menu form using a dummy table, so creating a blank form is not much of a change. You could get fancy and supply a bitmap background.

                  Jerry

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                    #10
                    RE: More about menus

                    Martin:

                    I was thinking the same as Jerry.

                    I've attached a crude, funny looking example of how this might be done.

                    Let me know what you think about it.

                    Ken

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                      #11
                      RE: More about menus

                      Hi Ken,

                      Thanks for sending that, and apologies for not replying sooner. Actually, I was thinking along the same lines, and even have a graphic on the "default" form.

                      If one is careful to keep track of what's in use, it is, of course, possible to close down the default form, remembering to reopen it when exiting from all other forms (you can display a "Select from drop-down menu's above" - type message on the form). I've also found it useful for displaying the opening password input - it sort of gives a reason for it being there - and I'm trying to ake it display messages when running various utilities, although I seem to have got stuck writing defaultform.helpbox.text from a function. Probably need to send a few refresh()es around.

                      Thanks again.

                      Martin.

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                        #12
                        RE: More about menus

                        Before anyone kindly takes the trouble to tell me, I realise that that should have been

                        :defaultform:helpbox.text

                        which makes it work!

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                          #13
                          RE: More about menus

                          Martin:

                          Thanks for the helpbox stuff - I can use that too!

                          Ken

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