The REAL v5 prices

[Keith Hubert]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Bob

How many nodes can you run with the FileMaker Pro Runtime at $499?

Keith Hubert
London.

[forskare]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Assuming the new user and inhouse will both have 6-10 computers: the new user will pay $349 + $899 = $1248. A developer (assuming he/she has a previous version of A5) will pay: $299 + $1099= $1298. If the developer bought v4.5 or v4.5 RT, those purchase amounts will be subtracted from the $1298.

kenn

[CALocklin]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Van, I see your point and it is a good one. However, I understood it differently than you.

As I recall, it was stated that the cost to purchase v4.5 would be applied toward the purchase of v5. I don't think any reference was made to an upgrade cost so it was always my understanding that our upgrade cost would be the difference between the full cost and the $$ spent on v4.5.

Based on that I assume that someone who has v4.0 would have to pay the full price to move up to 4.5.

BUT THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION. LET'S WAIT TO SEE THE FINAL NUMBERS WHEN IT IS RELEASED - I have no inside info but I find it hard to believe that it would be any later than next Monday. Who knows, maybe it will be tomorrow!?

[forskare]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

No Cal, I don't think so. If you have a previous A5 product (and perhaps A4), you should be eligible for the upgrade prices. If you have v4.5, then the cost is reduced by the amount/s you paid for v4.5 and/or v4.5 RT.

Could be wrong but I pretty sure that's the way it will work. Ha! We'll see.

kenn

[forskare]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

It's unlimited or bound by the limits of FM's technology.

I wouldn't use FileMaker for 2 reasons, maybe more: 1) their conferences cost $1198 plus $60 for each preconference session; 2) FM doesn't have A5's flexibility and power (so I understand from those who have used both). Here's a third reason, I haven't found their message board but 100 to 1 it's not the caliber of this one. How much is that worth??? To me, alot more than $700

kenn

[CALocklin]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

I hope you're right.

On the other hand, I'd buy it either way and still feel I got a good value.

[Raymond Lyons]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

>>There is always someone who says "that is too expensive".
Those who expect shareware prices should get shareware programs....

[forskare]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Cal,

This is a quote from Selwyn on another thread just a shor time ago:

"It is also true of course that the cost of the V4.5 Runtime (whether you paid for it as a full version, or an upgrade will be rebated on the purchase of a V5 Runtime), "

My logic is this, we have v4.5 so that qualifies us for the upgrade. Take if from there.

kenn

PS. Man, this was like wage negotiations with the county and we voted to go on strike but settled at the last minute. Boy, do feel relief!!

[Steve Dentler]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

A Better Pricing Model for the RunTime:

1 to 5 Posts on Pricing - 699.00
6 to 10 Posts on Pricing - 2,849.57
11 to 15 Posts on Pricing - 89,186.21
16 to 20 Posts on Pricing - 211,762.93
20 to 50 Posts on Pricing - 512,387.16
and of course, the incessant version - 8,394,716.32

[Peter.Greulich]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

How about this scenario?

You are the developer.

The next time a client needs a new feature - you give them the runtime, but add a pro-rata share of your purchase cost.

After a while (a year?), just on old clients, you recoup the cost.

On new clients, you build in an invisible "premium" to cover the cost of a chuck of v.5 RT ~ say $500.

No?

[Peter.Greulich]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Ray,

Remember Quattro Pro. I loved that program. Borland used to sell it for $99. It was better than Excel at the time. Where are they now?

Peter

[Raymond Lyons]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

Well, it is still available. at least as part of WordPerfect Office. Still, your point is well taken. But, one, I don't think anyone can compete head to head with the MS monopoly, which is what Borland tried to do. Two, where would Quattro Pro have been back then if they had priced it at $399 instead of $99? I certainly would not have bought it, whereas I did at $99. Three, Alpha is going to have a tough row to hoe if the price results in the market being pretty much limited to the already existing choir (all of us on this board and our more well-to-do clients). Some of you out there are dealing with larger business than I deal with, and presumably they won't be as concerned with the proposed prices. My small businesses will, and I would think many prospective new deveolpers would also be scared off by the prices. I know I would not have gotten on board way back when if the cost of entry had been what we are now looking at (adjusted for inflation).

Then too, I suppose one could try the higher pricing and if it looks like a disaster you could always lower them (we alphaholics would only scream a little bit).

Ray Lyons

[forskare]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

And, Where's paradox?

[John Walsh]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

These prices seem reasonable to me. Obviously, Alpha has alot of time invested in making V5 top notch. Compared to the previously floated numbers everone should be breathing a sigh of relief.

[Mike Konoff]

RE: The REAL v5 prices

I'm not saying that A5V5 is not deserving of the price, because it kicks the others butts. But look at the comparable pricing.

Filemaker = $299, upgrade $149
Access = $339, upgrade $109
Alpha Five V5 = $349, upgrade $299

A5 is higher than the other 2 in new and upgrade pricing.

I'm afraid that being at the top of the price list "and" being as unheard of as A5 is, that might cause potential new purchasers to bypass A5V5 and go to the others.

I'm no marketing guru, but I think that at this stage in the game the goal would be to attract as many new users as possible to get A5V5 in their blood, like A4 did for me years ago and A5V5 has done for me now. I don't think pricing it on top of the list of the comparables is going to do that.

Mike